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So I'm about 18/50 when this hand comes up. I'd just minraised pre the previous hand w/ AQo, but no action so did the same thing here, only this time I got two callers in the blinds. SB – this is his second hand at the table. BB is 22/16 AFq: 63 over 91 hands and had shown down some marginal hands after raising preflop. Should I just shove pre? On the flop would you just call his donk lead? When he 3bets on the flop should I just fold? Should I fold turn? I have to fold river, right? I hate folding in these spots, but looking back this is just the ultimate spew. If I fold when he 3bets on the flop I'm still left with about 17 BBs rather than much much less.
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t2500/t5000 Blinds + t625 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
BTN: BB = 5.2, t26120
SB: BB = 20.5, t102587
BB: BB = 22.7, t113564
UTG: BB = 7.1, t35677
UTG+1: BB = 26.6, t132846
UTG+2: BB = 5.3, t26659
Hero (MP1): BB = 23.8, t119160
MP2: BB = 8.2, t41185
CO: BB = 13.2, t65751
Pre Flop: (t13125) Hero is MP1 with Q
Q
3 folds, Hero raises to t10000, 3 folds, SB calls t7500, BB calls t5000
Flop: (t35625) A T 2
(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets t10000, Hero raises to t25000, SB folds, BB raises to t40000, Hero calls t15000
Turn: (t115625) 7
(2 players)
BB bets t20000, Hero calls t20000
River: (t155625) T (2 players)
BB bets t42939 all in, Hero ???
make it 13850 or full 3x it pre, giving blinds good price to call min raise. good play of reraising donk lead but after he repops it on ur raise u gotta fold. turn bet seems fishy but he prolly has it. i think u give up on the flop. left with a good shove stack.
bjizz
June 22, 2010
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I think your bet preflop was a little light, I prefer 2.5 to 3 BB coming in with a strong hand. Looks like he has been playing quite aggressively with his AFQ but is VPIP/PFR would have a weak ace in it for sure and that would have you beat. Shoving preflop would also be an option but I personally don't like to shove QQ from before CO unless I have a good read on the rest of the table or if I am short stacked. I would not reraise his donk bet but I am not sure if I would call or just fold there, I tend to let aces scare me away from my good hands when I do not have them.
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July 3, 2010
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This is a huge leak to flat his 4 bet on the flop and then call the Turn.
What hand range are you putting him on where you're good on the river?
I would have raised to 12,150 preflop and would have raised the donk lead 2.5x as you did but if he calls or clicks it back you just need to let it go. He has a worse hand so infrequently here and you'd need a ton of history vs. the villain to proceed.
I agree with FkCoolers but you could also simply call the flop donk and evaluate the turn, when he donk leads in a multiway pot he certainly a piece and probably a weak A or he may have two pair or a set and is trying to induce. If we were heads up I raise flop donk all day but Im not so inclined multiway. We have outs that can improve our hand so I probably just call the flop he fires turn and we dont improve I think its time to fold.
June 11, 2010
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Coming in with this hand since you only have 20 or so BB I would consider dry shoving it. You improve the odds a crap hand will call you as a lot of micro players think that you are just shoving anything there and will love to call. As it stands there is no way I think you can call the flop action. I know that they are in the blinds, but when the BB comes rocking out on an Ace high flop, chances are he is holding it and you are pretty screwed. After that I think you are just giving chips away. I am finding that a lot of times in these tourneys when they lead they have it, the just don't know about checking to the aggressor to extract more value, the micro player mind is when i hit my flop bet it. I think you paid him off big time in a situation where you could have gotten away cheaply.
On a side note when you min-raise at the blind levels something to think about, add in a goofy amount on the end (like 10999 in this case). A lot of players don't look at it and will treat it as a more standard open and you can get away with more 
July 3, 2010
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We don't have that many outs if any to improve our hand. The two remaining queens obviously do but aside from that if we're behind we're drawing to running cards and unlikely to earn anything for chasing.
His line seems a lot like AA so much here. He's just making tiny bets and raises to keep us in the pot all the way to the river.
Any time some takes a really goofy line and they're somewhat competent it's usually a monster.
His stats are a little laggy but far from terrible so doubt he weak leads and clicks back as a 4 bet with anything that doesn't have us absolutely smashed here.
FkCoolers said:
We don't have that many outs if any to improve our hand. The two remaining queens obviously do but aside from that if we're behind we're drawing to running cards and unlikely to earn anything for chasing.
His line seems a lot like AA so much here. He's just making tiny bets and raises to keep us in the pot all the way to the river.
Any time some takes a really goofy line and they're somewhat competent it's usually a monster.
His stats are a little laggy but far from terrible so doubt he weak leads and clicks back as a 4 bet with anything that doesn't have us absolutely smashed here.
I agree that there isnt much to improve our hand but folding to a small donk bet with QQ on this flop seems rather weak. As for raising, if we think this guy is somewhat competent and he donks small multiway we know that he knows this wont get a fold from a least the preflop raise so he is building a pot or he is looking to get raised. So by raising here we only get action from better hands but when we call we keep worse hands in the hand such as JT, QT, KT, JJ. I agree we dont find out any information and if we are going to decide if our hand is good on the flop when he comes back over the top its time to fold. Which is the same as simply calling and evaluating the turn for about the same price while seeing the next card and if we do hit our Q possibly getting his stack or maybe he then checks and we can try to get to river for cheap or possibly may be able to make a value bet. Whether I raise flop or call evaluate the turn it depends on the table dynamics and my thoughts on the other player, I have done both and see mert in both.
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