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215$ late stage, arguments for fold and call
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May 16, 2011 - 5:48 am
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I won't add anything, I will tell you my thought process after there were some discussion about the hand smile

 

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t2500/t5000 Blinds + t625 – 9 players – View hand 1309635
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

CO: BB = 39.4, t196766
BTN: BB = 46.9, t234428
SB: BB = 29.4, t147217
BB: BB = 99.6, t498052
UTG: BB = 54.1, t270305
UTG+1: BB = 31.8, t159164
UTG+2: BB = 24.3, t121643
MP1: BB = 46.8, t233762
Hero (MP2): BB = 35.2, t176191

Pre Flop: (t13125) Hero is MP2 with Q of spades A of hearts
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t12222, 2 folds, Hero calls t12222, CO calls t12222, BTN raises to t233803 all in,3 folds, Hero ???

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May 16, 2011 - 8:19 am
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Fold unless you know he does this with 910s 10Js JQs and all small pairs. Basicly i'd only call if I had a good reason to think he has alot less than me.

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May 16, 2011 - 8:45 am
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i fold unless you have a good reason to think he has a bunch of weaker aces and some broadway combo's plus ANY pair in his range

 

I'm not sure anyone put's 40bigs in with that action and not have the goods

with no reads etc i would put him on JJ+,AQs+

he should be set mining any other playable pairs and folding weaker aces

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May 16, 2011 - 8:52 am
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with no other info (reads or history) its a fold. It is a great spot for a light squeeze but the standard villain has QQ, JJ or AK here most times. He has too many blinds to be shoving light here IMO your crushed too often

I prefer 3bet preflop rather than flat because you take away control of the hand and stops this multiway flop/squeeze opportunity happening.

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May 16, 2011 - 12:32 pm
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Fold.  I agree it can be a light squeeze but your equity against 10% of hands is about a flip so you would need him to be doing this with about 15% of hands to be a about 56% fav, AND you have the button yet to act (although the likelihoood of the button having a huge hand is low, it still is a possibility).

 

also just so you know, if you leave the view hand link you can see your action preflop which I am not sure you wanted to disclose yet.

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May 16, 2011 - 1:08 pm
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Ezy fold as played. Dont know wt reads we have on original raiser but would like to see a 3bet pre to take control whch makes everything esle a lil simplier. Villian could see all the dead money and be pushing with a lot worse hands. We 3bet pre and villian still elects to shove, i have to agree with the ranges GOliath assigns and we can fold a lot more happier.

 

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May 16, 2011 - 3:34 pm
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I think it is a fold as well, but would of 3 bet pre to look to isolate/take control of the hand.

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May 16, 2011 - 4:28 pm
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bjizzle44 said:

Ezy fold as played. Dont know wt reads we have on original raiser but would like to see a 3bet pre to take control whch makes everything esle a lil simplier. Villian could see all the dead money and be pushing with a lot worse hands. We 3bet pre and villian still elects to shove, i have to agree with the ranges GOliath assigns and we can fold a lot more happier.

 

bjizz

3bet pre and try to take it down or take control of the pot. If villain then cold 4bets you're def sure you're behind. Dont see villain doing this w AJ or less, so ur def crushed by his range. Maybe villain does this w MP's-JJ, but ur flippin at best. So whatever everyone here said.

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May 16, 2011 - 9:53 pm
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Thnx guys, I had a read on the guy, that he is pretty light in these spots and more than capable to make a move, against the range I gave him I was a slight fav, so I decided to put my chips in the middle, he had 99. unf lost the flip 

3bet pre is the line I would take now for sure

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