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September 14, 2014
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#Game No : 806283104
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 806283104 *****
$62,500/$125,000 Blinds No Limit Holdem – ***
Tournament #75768416 Free 10 Max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: lakist ( $2,074,236 )
Seat 2: BoxcarHobo ( $917,520 )
Seat 3: thuhrmann ( $5,759,207 )
Seat 4: holdat222 ( $2,654,404 )
Seat 5: NorthStar25 ( $2,527,259 )
Seat 6: london_ace ( $4,809,758 )
Seat 7: Thx4callin93 ( $2,437,350 )
Seat 9: IgiBertoldi ( $3,590,266 )
lakist posts ante [$12,500]
holdat222 posts ante [$12,500]
NorthStar25 posts ante [$12,500]
thuhrmann posts ante [$12,500]
BoxcarHobo posts ante [$12,500]
london_ace posts ante [$12,500]
Thx4callin93 posts ante [$12,500]
IgiBertoldi posts ante [$12,500]
thuhrmann posts small blind [$62,500]
holdat222 posts big blind [$125,000]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ K
A
]
NorthStar25 raises [$250,000]
london_ace calls [$250,000]
Thx4callin93 folds
IgiBertoldi folds
lakist folds
BoxcarHobo folds
thuhrmann folds
holdat222 folds
** Dealing flop ** [ Qh, Jd, 2d ]
NorthStar25 bets [$393,750]
london_ace folds
hey hey!
It’s been a while since i’ve posted a hand on here. Hope everyone is well 🙂
which line do you think is best pre?
prize money below
1st – 5.1k
2nd – 2.8k
3rd – 1.8k
4th – 1.4k
5th – 1k
6th – $850
7th – $660
8th – $460
cheers 😀
September 14, 2014
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No reads on V by the way.
June 3, 2015
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hi, whats V stand for ? sorry am newish on here but not new to the game. if V stands for the preflop aggresor and you have no reads at all , i would reraise get it in wi his 20bb stack as we re supposed to think they re all fish when we ve no reads right?? Especially on 888!! haha
unless there were table dynamics where you expect to get iso d alot
June 11, 2012
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V=Villain
this is a clear shove to me preflop.
AS played not folding postflop
May 20, 2015
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Preflop I’m 3 betting looking to get it in. At these stack depths late in a tourney these are the exact spots we are looking for. Villain’s 4betting range will likely include hands we dominate or flip with. I don’t think he calls much at this stack depth oop.
June 3, 2015
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florianm1 said
V=Villainthis is a clear shove to me preflop.
AS played not folding postflop
thx bud i feel a bit silly now and i do agree , shove pre
June 11, 2012
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Soapy13 said
florianm1 said
V=Villainthis is a clear shove to me preflop.
AS played not folding postflop
thx bud i feel a bit silly now and i do agree , shove pre
no need to feel silly.
better asking one question too much than leaving out one.
There are so many reasons someone might not understand a terminology or an abbreviation so its ok to ask.
June 11, 2012
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kmid said
Preflop I’m 3 betting looking to get it in.
3betting with the intention to call it off would be a disaster.
The ICM pressure is always the highest on the guy that has to call it off
May 20, 2015
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florianm1 said
3betting with the intention to call it off would be a disaster.The ICM pressure is always the highest on the guy that has to call it off
Whilst I think ‘disaster’ is a little dramatic, after looking at the hand for a while I’ve found that jamming is slightly more profitable than 3 bet calling. Flatting is definitely not the way to play this hand.
September 14, 2014
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Thanks for the feedback guys! i agree that should be a GII, it was just because of ICM i decided to flat :\ so what’s your flatting range in this spot then?
November 11, 2015
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I also feel like shoving pre is the way to go.
As for flatting range, I simply do not like the spot for flatting, but I guess hands like AQo and AJs could flat, and maybe a few small-medium pairs like 66, 77.
Given that V raised UTG and is left with about 18BB to play post flop and you still have to go through 6 players, it seems hard to flat with a lot of hands unless the table is super passive preflop (low 3bet %/ shove %).
I understand my analysis is simplistic but I’m kind of new to this so I thought I could give it a shot and see what others think.
Interesting question for sure 🙂
January 20, 2014
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I would have 3 bet to something like 622,222. There are some big stacks behind, one of which has you covered. I don’t mind the flat, you get to see what some people behind you do, setting up a possible juicy squeeze play for one of the shorter stacks which you can snap call. I just don’t like ripping almost 40bb here w/ AKo in early position.
Thanks for the hand!
~Steve
September 14, 2014
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@boulder , flatting with small-med pairs wont be good as we are not deep enough, so yeah there;s not much room for set mining 🙂 Let’s say we flat a hand like say 55/66 and we face a shove by a short stack we may have to call given the odds we will be getting pre flop an if we lose that would dent our stack which could cost us our tourney! I think we could flat AQ here, i’d fold AJ , what about pocket 9s? are we shoving this? i dont think flatting with 9s would be great, i really do think its a shove/fold spot , thanks for your comment btw 🙂
@sigaba, interesting, i like 🙂
September 14, 2014
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what i wrote above in regards to pocket 9s that its a shove/fold is wrong , we can flat 9s and if we did decide to play a hand like 9s here , i wouldn’t consider it to be played for set mining ,it just has a lot of value. We also do have Position on v post flop , so if we did call , we could float or just fold to further aggression. I doubt v will be bluffing very often in a spot like this when they bet flop , i think they’d be playing more straight forwardly. Our range would look pretty strong as well given that we called an UTG raise, which means they should also be bluffing less IMO. Shoving 9s would be pretty bad though given that we have 30bb and the position we are in , so i actually think its flat/fold. only problem is when we flat 9s we may face a shove from behind , so i find this to be a tricky spot.
thoughts?
May 20, 2015
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I think my flatting range would be something like 99-QQ and AQ. I would fold AJ, 77 and worse pairs. 88 specifically would likely depend on stats of villains. I think this flatting range is going to make decisions fairly easy regardless of action both preflop and post.
November 11, 2015
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folding_aces_pre_yo said
@boulder , flatting with small-med pairs wont be good as we are not deep enough, so yeah there;s not much room for set mining 🙂 Let’s say we flat a hand like say 55/66 and we face a shove by a short stack we may have to call given the odds we will be getting pre flop an if we lose that would dent our stack which could cost us our tourney! I think we could flat AQ here, i’d fold AJ , what about pocket 9s? are we shoving this? i dont think flatting with 9s would be great, i really do think its a shove/fold spot , thanks for your comment btw 🙂
@sigaba, interesting, i like 🙂
Makes sense. Flatting 99 seems to make sense given you stack and maybe up to JJ as well?
I really need to do this more 😀
September 14, 2014
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@km I’m not sure if flatting TT would be great tbh…i guess it cant be that bad , especially JJ-QQ, wouldn’t it be better if we just 3-bet/c with JJ/QQ and flat 99-TT?
@boulder , I think with JJ its a 3-bet/call.
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