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powahand
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September 12, 2010 - 10:46 am
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Hey im new to the site and to poker. I been playing about 10 hours everyday for 2 months 3 weeks and im getting a hand about how to play smart poker. When i 1st started i would do alot of stupid things that i seem to have fixed now. Im still in the learning part of my game. I do play for money 100$ per week in small buy ins for about 4-10 bucks. I have seen alot of the vids on the site and it has helped my game a tab bit by me not playing bad hands to start these events. This site has showed me to play more tight in the start of tourneys which is the weakest part of my game. when i buy into a event with about 3 to 4000 players i end up dropping out around 400 sometime 300 and very rare i make it top 100. I have had alot and i do mean alot of bad beats to the point where ive played the hand the best i can play it and the guy gets 2 pair on turn and river. These beats sometime gets me upset to the point where i think poker isnt for me. But also sometimes i play great and feel that nothing else in the world is for me other then poker. I watch and read alot about the game and just wanna get better before my unemployment runs out lol. i got about 2 more months. Maybe less.

 

My question is does it take about 6 months to be a winning / break even player? And is it posible to get a coach from the site to work wit me one on one to fix a few gaps in my game. I tent to have the strongest focus the 1st hour to 2 hours of the events but after that i seem to losse foucus and play not so smart when it counts the most. I do believe i can be one of the best and even get a big cash day but i just need to keep working at it. I dont really have any family support and real life stress sometime effects me at the table. if anyone has any advice for a player like me i will gladly take it in

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September 12, 2010 - 11:13 am
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Don't  think there is really any set time frame to just magically become a profitable player.  My guess is you're playing on PokerStars with fields that large.  Main thing to know with those large of fields that your variance is going to be very high.  I would suggest playing in like the $4 180 mans.  I've heard there can be money made in those and you'll have a lot smaller variance.  Main thing is to play a lot as that is the best form of practice.  On top of the video's another very good learning tool is posting hands in the MTT Strategy to get feedback.  I've learned a lot from others and seems you get a lot of responses from the pro's as well which never happens at other training sites.  Sounds like you're on the right track just keep trucking along and the big score will happen eventually as long as you play good poker.

Keep watching the videos and get involved with the forums and nothing but good things can happen.

Best of luck at the tables!

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September 12, 2010 - 11:14 am
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There is coaching available, click the link up top “coaching” to find out more however its not free.  As for playing for a living as your unemployment runs out, well Im going to be very honest here. You need to go find a job before your in major financial trouble. Im not saying that one day you wouldnt be able to play for a living but your going about it kind of backwards. You need to play as much as you can for a couple years and once you realize that your steadily making more money month in and out than at your job and you have a nice bankroll along with say 6 months living expenses then give it a shot.  Many good players will never make enough to live off of poker as their only source of income. You also indicated that sometimes your not sure poker is for you and that you stress at the table, depending on poker to survive will compound the stress. Its like you just learned to swim and your ok at it you need to stay in the shallow end for awhile before you try to swim the English channel:)  Im sure some pros who play for a living will chime in…good luck in whatever you end up doing.

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September 13, 2010 - 10:04 am
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Thank u guys for the support. As far as having money after my enemployement is up is a fair thing to say id be ok.

I do other things to keep a float. My main focus is playing poker all the time. That will give me the best edge because i really dont wanna do anything else. Like i said for about 2 months 3 weeks non stop 10 hour days. Its all i really wanna do and i wanna just become a profit. The reason why i play at stars is because it seems to be one of the hardest sits to win at online.

Not looking for the easy way out at all. But i do want results before 6 months. Its a goal i set and dont wanna altar it worring about other things. Poker is a major stress and im not player yet. It seems it will be even harder as i get better.

The reason why i joined the site is because of bigdoggpokt55s. I love his style of play and feels he is one of the best but htt is a monster also. This site will help me so thats why im here. I dont have a monkey on my back so im in no rush to score Just wanna keep progressing to the top so next year i can help people who are in my shoes now. th

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September 13, 2010 - 11:06 am
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You're setting yourself up for major life burnout if you keep this pace.

It probably doesn't help that you're currently making a lot of tournament mistakes and burning them into your brain by playing so many tables and hands the same way every day.

You really need some life balance here. And my recommendation is to learn how to be a good tournament player before dusting off a bunch of buy-ins and calling that a learning process.

You can easily spend half that time watching vids and taking notes and then playing no more than one or two tables at a time and making sure you're playing well before increasing the volume.

Also, as you get better you'll notice Stars is one of the easier sites to win at.

More bad players + better late structure = higher ROI.

If you're playing a micro MTT with 3000 players my guess is that 2900 of them are break even or losing players.

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September 13, 2010 - 1:08 pm
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Yeah Fkcooler's is right, that's a little too much time to spend playing at the beginning of your poker career.  I read a lot of books when i started playing.  More time doing that then time at the tables I think.  I don't really enjoy losing that much, and also i had a really small bankroll at the time which was probably the only money my parents would allow me to deposit so i had to make it last.  I also watched a lot of poker on T.V. and youtube because i really loved the game. (Don't watch gavin smith play day 1 of the Main Event this year though, that is not fun to watch, just painful.)  Remember, muscle memory seems to apply to poker.  I find it absolutely amazing when I am sitting at a table with a guy I have a lot of hands on, sharkscope him, find he has played 6,000+ games with something like a  -20% ROI.  Playing more games does nothing but hurt if you haven't put the time in in the first place.  This is the most fun part of poker though.  Final tabling your first big tournament while you read Play Poker Like the Pros during breaks to see how to trap your opponents (joke, don't get this book).  This post is getting long, so I'll rap it up with some good books for starting out.

Harrington on Hold'em Vol 1 & 2- Dan Harrington

The Theory of Poker- David Sklansky

Winning Poker Tournaments One Hand at a Time Vol 1 & 2- Hilger, Lynch, Turner, Van Fleet

Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide: Tournament Edition- Lots of authors (Don't read Gavin Smith's section on playing the deepstack.  According to Gavin, you should never re-raise pre so your opponents don't know what you have.)  Sorry for all the hate Gavin.

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September 15, 2010 - 2:50 pm
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jshilling09 said:

 Final tabling your first big tournament while you read Play Poker Like the Pros during breaks to see how to trap your opponents (joke, don't get this book).  

 


 I didn't even know what poker was before I started playing (last December), and one of the first books I read was this one…and reading this book pretty much destroyed any chance I had for the first 2-3 months.

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September 17, 2010 - 12:14 am
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no limit holdem is a game that can take 10 minutes to learn but a decade to master. sometimes when your really interested in advanceing your game but are held back do to your lack of resources you can start to second guess your game and start to make bad plays at the tables and not even realize you are making bad plays because of the lack of resources. i would definitely help you try to further your game and would be willing to coach so send me a pm and we can chat.

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September 19, 2010 - 10:51 am
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u guys have be awsome at the advice. This week ive just been doing poker homework and not playing that much. I do feel burnt out sometime so taking a brea at tables to futher learn se the right seems to be the right way. so far ive watch prolly 65% of the vids and for the next few days ill watch the rest. Then ill watch them all over again to get it in deep inside my head on how to play  smart agressive poker. thx guys this site is priceless

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