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2 Hands From Tonight's Session
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Hey guys played a couple of 45 mans tonight while i had the time. Thought i'd put up 2 interesting hands (Or hands i thought were interesting haha)

Hand 1 – Villain was 43/0 over 7 hands.

Poker Stars $1.36+$0.14 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t15/t30 Blinds – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): t1470 49 BBs
Mecrusse (BB): t1440 48 BBs
JKF67 (UTG): t2165 72.17 BBs
pedro mendoz (UTG+1): t1935 64.50 BBs
EnaMA (MP1): t3120 104 BBs
edii104 (MP2): t1470 49 BBs
diamonds108 (CO): t445 14.83 BBs
Gliykter (BTN): t1455 48.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is SB with Q of spades A of hearts
2 folds, EnaMA calls t30, 1 fold, diamonds108 calls t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t180, 1 fold, EnaMA calls t150, diamonds108 calls t150

Pretty standard raise i think. Anyone do a different sizing perhaps?

Flop: (t570) 2 of clubs 5 of hearts 7 of hearts (3 players)
Hero checks, EnaMA checks, diamonds108 checks
I think I screwed up here by not cbetting. I'm not defining their ranges and giving them a free card to take the lead.

Turn: (t570) J of hearts (3 players)
Hero bets t200, EnaMA calls t200, diamonds108 folds
NFD and overs, and potentially the best hand still, so i bet now. My range i put on villain now is Jx, one card FD's, some straight draws and some 7x or 5x. Is this a decent range? Or should i add/take away some hands?

River: (t970) 8 of clubs (2 players)
Hero checks, EnaMA bets t60, Hero calls t60

I don't think this card changes much IMO. It may give him a straight/2nd pair now, and if he has a weak one card FD then i still have the best hand. So i feel like a bet gets him to always call with better (He will probably fold 2x and 5x, 7x MAYBE) And a check will get to showdown a lot (Due to his passive nature that we have to take off this small sample size) so i feel i dont have to worry too much about a bluff here. After he bets so small i feel like I'm beat obv, but its so small i want to see the information  at a cheap price.

 

Overall i think i buggered this hand up by not cbetting the flop.

 

Hand 2 – Villain is 13/5 over 38 hands

Poker Stars $0.45+$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

billinhio (MP): t2653 13.27 BBs
Hero (CO): t4340 21.70 BBs
Tupacpac (BTN): t625 3.12 BBs
janek8909 (SB): t4609 23.05 BBs
RoyalRams (BB): t3156 15.78 BBs
shari74 (UTG): t2790 13.95 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is CO with Q of hearts K of hearts
2 folds, Hero raises to t420, 2 folds, RoyalRams calls t220
Standard obv

Flop: (t940) 2 of hearts K of spades 7 of clubs (2 players)
RoyalRams checks, Hero checks
Board is so dry that i decide to check back and disguise my hand, not really afraid of any card (Besides an ace)

Turn: (t940) 7 of spades (2 players)
RoyalRams bets t200, Hero raises to t480, RoyalRams calls t280

I feel like my raise size is good, again i feel very confident with my hand and don't want to scare away a lot of his range, which i feel includes worse Kx, some 7x, FD's and smaller PP (maybe 88-22, i think that 99+ jam pre) and this is the micros so i feel that players still call with low PP's to set mine with low stacks at this buy in, thats why i include these hands.

River: (t1900) 6 of hearts (2 players)
RoyalRams checks, Hero bets t760, RoyalRams raises to t2256 all in,

Go for a value bet to get worse Kx and PP's to call. Obv puke when he jams. It's 1496 to call into 4916:

1496/4916= 30.43% (If i have done this wrong please correct me)

If i put in a range of 66,22, some middling 7x connectors, A7, and some broadway Kx, it's a call.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

 664,146  games     0.688 secs   965,328  games/sec

Board: 2h Ks 7c 7s 6h
Dead:  

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied    
Hand 0:     42.253%      35.65%     06.63%             236794         44029.50   { KhQh }
Hand 1:     57.750%      51.19%     06.63%             340041         44050.50   { KcKd, KcKs, KdKs, 66, 22, KcQc, KdQd, KsQs, KcJc, KdJd, KsJs, KcTc, KdTd, KsTs, 97s, 87s, 76s, KcQd, KcQh, KcQs, KdQc, KdQh, KdQs, KsQc, KsQd, KsQh, KcJd, KcJh, KcJs, KdJc, KdJh, KdJs, KsJc, KsJd, KsJh, KcTd, KcTh, KcTs, KdTc, KdTh, KdTs, KsTc, KsTd, KsTh, 87o, 76o }

 

Yet if i take away some of the Kx hands it becomes a clear fold.

   1,985,744  games     2.052 secs   967,711  games/sec

Board: 2h Ks 7c 7s 6h
Dead:  

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied    
Hand 0:     10.352%      00.00%     10.35%                  0        205612.50   { KhQh }
Hand 1:     89.648%      79.33%     10.36%            1575291        205654.00   { KcKd, KcKs, KdKs, 66, 22, KcQc, KdQd, KsQs, 97s, 87s, 76s, KcQd, KcQh, KcQs, KdQc, KdQh, KdQs, KsQc, KsQd, KsQh, 87o, 76o }

 

The question is, how often do you think he shoves KJ and KT? I really don't think its that often, and i dont even think he shoves KQ too much. I havent even added in a slow played AK or AA, so i believe this is a fold. Thoughts?

As usual, Criticism Is Welcome smile

 

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I’ve just realised that to work out the equity i need to make it a profitable call, i need to add what im calling to the tial pot right?

So instead of 1496 to call into 4916, it’s 1496 to call into 6412 yeah?

1496/6412=23.33%

Is that the right calculation? It still makes it a fold with my last range, but i just wanna get the equity right first wink


Note: I am still a novice at doing calculations like this etc, so any help with the math would be fantastic.

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Hand 1 – I probably make it 150. 180 seems fine tho. Also, I do just flat here sometimes.  Underreps our hand, keeps their worse Ax's in, and also keeps the pot smaller so we don't have to play a bloated pot OOP.

As played, once we raise we have to c-bet.  It's just going to work so often where we tid on the flop uncontested and as you described, helps us play the hand easier.  If we c-bet, if called, there are enough good turn cards to barrel (like the Jh) that can force 1 pair hands to fold.  On this river, if we had barreled two streets, I might try a 3rd to get him off those 1pr hands. But c-bet/give-up is okay sometimes too.

As you played it, if you check the river, it should be a c/f.  Even though he only bets 60, he's going to bet more if he has worse than AQ so you won't be priced in.

 

Hand 2 – This is a stupid spot b/c he shouldn't be flatting here with his stack (but he obviously doesn't know this).  TBH idk what he flats you here with. Probably broadways, suited connects, low pp.

Checking back is okay, c-betting is fine as well.  But once you check back, I'm not raising this turn.  Even though he bets the minimum, which is really dumb, if he's bluffing he's not gonna call your raise anyway.  You are only folding out hands that you beat, thus strengthing his range.  Just call here and call most rivers.  Give him a chance to hang himself.  If he checks to you, value bet.

As played, the river bet is fine, but plz just b/f.  He's not gonna turn his hand into a bluff at this level or shove worse. He's gonna just call all his Kx except for K7, and this raise is atleast a 7x (which is bad, but he'd still do it and includes fullhouses, all which beat us.)

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