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2 hands from Sunday Mill early stages

duggs

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March 20, 2012 - 1:02 am

Hey guys, really interested in some feedback on these hands, first ill put this one that was immediately previous to the following as it influenced how i played the next hand

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

UTG+1: t11775 58.88 BBs
UTG+2: t7787 38.94 BBs
MP1: t22482 112.41 BBs
MP2: t10979 54.90 BBs
CO: t4935 24.68 BBs
BTN: t7055 35.27 BBs
SB: t9800 49 BBs
BB: t19256 96.28 BBs
Hero (UTG): t10000 50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG with T of diamonds 5 of clubs
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t200, 5 folds, SB calls t100, BB checks

Flop: (t600) A of clubs 6 of diamonds 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t600, SB calls t600, BB calls t600

Turn: (t2400) T of clubs (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks

River: (t2400) 4 of hearts (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets t1200, UTG+1 folds, SB raises to t9000 all in, BB folds

Final Pot: t4800
SB wins t4800

villain also opened with min raise from this position in previous orbit,

This players donk pot in the previous hand on the flop then check folded the turn,

so i assumed that he is limping mid strength hands and will bluff (generally with bigger/scarier sizing) as he overvalues the usefulness of bluffing, as he bluffs too often then he probably is the type to play his nut hands slower.

thoughts on my line?

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

UTG: t10975 54.88 BBs
UTG+1: t7787 38.94 BBs
UTG+2: t22482 112.41 BBs
MP1: t10979 54.90 BBs
MP2: t4935 24.68 BBs
CO: t7055 35.27 BBs
BTN: t12600 63 BBs
SB: t17256 86.28 BBs
Hero (BB): t10000 50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with T of diamonds A of spades
UTG calls t200, 7 folds, Hero raises to t600, UTG calls t400

Flop: (t1300) 8 of clubs 7 6 of hearts (2 players)
Hero bets t650, UTG calls t650

Turn: (t2600) A of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t1200, UTG raises to t2800, Hero calls t1600

River: (t8200) 6 of spades (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets t6925 all in, Hero calls t5950 all in

Final Pot: t20100

this hand occured after I folded my SB

thought villian might 3bet me lighter after i reraised limper with A10 two hands ago, also thought that villains value range was pretty crushed by me as AJ+ 99+, since is range is depolarized i thought 4betting is always good a he either 5bet shoves or calls with worse. Generally am i ever good against his small 5bet?

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

SB: t7787 38.94 BBs
BB: t22482 112.41 BBs
UTG: t10979 54.90 BBs
UTG+1: t4935 24.68 BBs
MP1: t7055 35.27 BBs
MP2: t13675 68.38 BBs
CO: t17156 85.78 BBs
Hero (BTN): t20000 100 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BTN with K of spades K of hearts
3 folds, MP2 calls t200, 1 fold, Hero raises to t800, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t1400, Hero raises to t3600, MP2 raises to t6400, Hero raises to t20000 all in, MP2 calls t7275 all in

thoughts/critisims/help welcome

thanks

hawkeyeK9

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March 20, 2012 - 2:16 pm

My only issue is he is limp 3betting you….if he is doing it light than he would have folded to your strong 4bet unless he has the cooler hand. Sometimes some people might be capable of doing this with AK or QQ but not very often at all. I actually think flatting the 3bet is better to keep his possible light hands in play and to continue to get value. 4betting just identifies a cooler and makes him fold worse hands….and it is up to you if you can fold KK against this type of info, a lot of players cant.

duggs

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March 20, 2012 - 3:29 pm

what kind of range do you give a limp/3bettor? i assumed villain does it with 99-QQ, and sometimes so even weaker pairs, also kind of made the assumption that he takes the line limp/3bet/fold almost never and would be calling me alot, and if he 5bet jams i can stack of, and i should probably fold to the 5minish bet? is this thinking wrong?

also thoughts on A10 hand?

thanks for your input

rivermen123

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March 20, 2012 - 4:28 pm

The limp reraise always looks like AA to me, although I'm sure people do it with different hands sometimes…

However, after he limp reraises and you 4bet him, I don't think his 5bet to 6400 is anything other than AA.

hawkeyeK9

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March 21, 2012 - 10:50 am

You say he could be limp/raising you light because he saw the AT hand and I think you believe he could be 5betting you light for similar reasons, but I dont he is going to try and make a big play against you just because of that hand this early in the tourney with no antes involved. At first his limp/raise looks kinda weak because it looks like you are just making a big bet from the BTN and then he just clicks it back, so I think his range at that point could be semi-wide and 66+, KTs+, KJ+. Then once you 4bet, your hand looks super strong and looks like you are never folding, so I think his 5bet is AK or QQ+ with a strong probabability of AA.

As for the AT hand. I think you are way ahead of his range pre but I still dont like your bet oop, it turns your hand face up imo and makes it to easy to range you…not to mention it makes it harder to play postflop oop against villian with a wide range unless you smash the flop. Postflop I think a cbet is fine if you think he can fold but I think you get called almost always on that board so I prefer check/call on the flop. I 100% prefer check/call on turn with a wet board but you picking up good showdown value. On the river you made a good check/call, good read.

duggs

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March 22, 2012 - 3:21 am

thats really good, thanks. my reasoning for 4betting is i think he will flat my 4bet with a range i have crushed, that is likely to pay at least one bet of post flop,

when he 5bet me i felt really lost but i wasnt about to fold kings pre without being sure so i just shoved it in, looking back afterwards his range when he minish 5bets it is so so narrow it is pretty much only AA, had he 5bet shoved i would be pretty comfortable getting it in,

regarding A10 hand, my reasoning to double barrel was that A is such an obvious barrel card he is quite likely to float me/bluff raise me.

I might be putting too much weight into that previous hand but he made a pot sized donk bluff into two opponents then gave up, i assumed he would shut down with all his air on the river if i called his turn bet? is this thinking flawed?

thanks for the input

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