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2 hands from big $55... mid stage+FT
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This villain is not very good given his SS stats. 66 ability 12$ ABI 4k games. Also he had a decent vpip-pfr gap 10-25 or something. But not many hands on him. Easy fold? Kinda hard to tell given poor players tend to play illogically…

No Limit Hold’em Tournament T800/T1,600
Buy-in: $50+$5 USD Hold’em No Limit
PokerStars
9 players
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Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T58,785)
UTG+1 – UTG+1 (
T24,899)
UTG+2 – UTG+2 (
T47,766)
MP – MP (
T13,802)
MP2 – MP2 (
T49,432)
CO – CO (
T51,963)
BTN – Hero (
T91,452)
SB – SB (
T25,216)
BB – BB (
T35,285)

Preflop: (T4,200, 9 players) Hero is BTN with K♦ A♥
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to T4,200, 3 folds, Hero raises to T10,455, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls T6,255

Flop: 7♣ J♠ Q♠ (T25,110, 2 players – Hero: T80,797, UTG+2: T37,111)
UTG+2 checks,
Hero bets T9,201, UTG+2 calls T9,201

Turn: K♥ (T43,512, 2 players – Hero: T71,596, UTG+2: T27,910)
UTG+2 bets T27,910 (all-in), 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T27,910 returned to UTG+2

Total Pot: T43,512

UTG+2 wins T43,512

This is final table and opener is very laggy and using his bigstack well. I have quite tight image and displaying my supernova status. I would flat here every time but for some reason i clicked it back, probably heat of the moment. How bad is this play and is this a flat OTF 100% of the time? What cards do we lead OTT here?

No Limit Hold’em Tournament T10,000/T20,000
Buy-in: $50+$5 USD Hold’em No Limit
PokerStars
7 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com: Poker HUD for Mac and Windows

Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T1,284,855)
UTG+1 – UTG+1 (
T420,522)
MP – MP (
T228,131)
CO – CO (
T353,917)
BTN – BTN (
T824,621)
SB – SB (
T1,261,388)
BB – Hero (
T249,566)

Preflop: (T47,500, 7 players) Hero is BB with 8♣ T♣
UTG raises to T40,000, 5 folds, Hero calls T20,000

Flop: J♦ 9♣ Q♣ (T107,500, 2 players – Hero: T207,066, UTG: T1,242,355)
Hero checks,
UTG bets T40,000, Hero raises to T80,000, 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T40,000 returned to Hero

Total Pot: T187,500

Hero wins T187,500

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Hand 1:

what are villains fold to 3bet? If he calls a lot than i make it bigger pre to extract more value.

Flop: i dont like the flop play. 77, JJ,QQ, QJ, KQ are all in villains range further we are not very please in getting c/jammed as we would likely be priced in.

Turn: I fold. I think villain has us beat here too often. Further i prefer folding also from an utility point of view. Loosing 27K from our stack is more harmful than winning the 70k would be beneficial.

 

Hand 2. well played preflop. call down post flop or jam. I tend calling down bc based on villains sizing he is button clicking so we have a higher chance that he continues bluffin

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February 24, 2016 - 9:48 am
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Think I agree with checking flop on first hand. Turn fold looks good though, tough to find many bluffs villain plays that way.

Second hand is interesting. I’m probably inclined to check-raise since there are so many turn cards that kill your action – any T, K or club will make it hard for you to get value, and you also have a nut hand that doesn’t block any of villain’s bet-calling range. I might c/c with KT or QJ (which sounds weird since QJ is more vulnerable, but it’s way harder to get value from a c/r when villain has fewer Qx hands) but I think T8 has to be in our c/r range. I might just make it a check-shove since making it 90k or 100k from a 220k stack is pretty suspicious. We get called by any Qx or better when we do that, maybe even AJ/KJ also.

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@ginger , so you’re saying that you’d rather c/r K-T then Q-J as its hard to get value from a c/r as v may have fewer Qx hands. We dont have much of a value target if we had Q-J , apart from flush draws?

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February 27, 2016 - 11:56 am
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@ginger

 

You said you may c/c with  K-T or Q-J here , are you not that worried if the turn is a club if u have Q-J? you’re hand is vulnerable which makes me wanna c/r . I think what you’re saying is you dont think v is going to have flush draws in their range here that often which makes Q-J a good candidate to c/c ( and if v does have a draw the money is likely going in anyway)  OTF and its also unlikely v has Qx as we block thse.  There’s not much merit in c/r Q-J were as with K-T there is , since there’s more likely hood v will call a c/r with Q and Jx. 

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February 27, 2016 - 3:47 pm
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fapy,

It’s not enough to say “there’s some part of V’s range I’d prefer to c/r against, therefore I should c/r.” Yes, sometimes the turn will be a club and that may be tricky to play. But there are also parts of V’s range where c/r is undesirable. For instance, V might have 8d 7d planning to barrel lots of turns, or he might have KT. You have to weigh all these things. “Protecting” against draws is not often the most important factor in a hand, especially when those draws are not necessarily a big chunk of V’s range to begin with. 

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February 28, 2016 - 11:01 am
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Thanks focault and i Agree with what u have written. If he has KT though we are beat? we are not getting away from this hand if he has KT , unlikely right? :\

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hand 1
Are you cbeting calling a shove on the flop? V has 37111 otf, you bet 9201 into 25110, pot is 34k and V can shove. Why not check back and take a free card, I think you only represent a overpair here, not sure if you bet set of QQ or JJ in this situation.
 

hand 2
i just call cbet otf, ck river, lead river if vilain checks turn.
if V has KT money is going in anyways, flush can save you in this case lol.

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folding_aces_pre_yo said
Thanks focault and i Agree with what u have written. If he has KT though we are beat? we are not getting away from this hand if he has KT , unlikely right? :\

This was in reference to your question about check-raising QJ. Also, even if we’re not going to fold later, that doesn’t make check-raising into the nuts desirable.

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ah okay 🙂

 

V is a loose opponent so he’s unlikely going to have much of a strong range.

 

This flop hits the PFR range more then it does the BB right? If i were going to weigh out if V has a strong range or a weak range,  post flop , i’d say a weak range as we actually do block a lot of value hands that v could have. I reckon v is more likely to have a hand like  8diamond 7diamond rather then KT! as its difficult to make a strong hand in poker. I think c/c flop is fine with J-Q and then re-evaluate turn/river. I’d probably call turn and river on almost any run out..if there’s a 4 flush it’s terrible though ..lol as we could easily have a club  which means less chance v is bluffing otr right?

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