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2 Flats and a shove??

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August 10, 2010 - 8:23 pm

Both the flats were playing tight, and the shove was playing even tighter than them…..we lay this down?

Poker Stars $10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t75/t150 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

drchang84 (MP1): t12139 80.93 BBs
lince10 (MP2): t5628 37.52 BBs
Tsonontouan (CO): t5827 38.85 BBs
daaaaaaang16 (BTN): t4756 31.71 BBs
Pythomunoz (SB): t10965 73.10 BBs
country_cash (BB): t10401 69.34 BBs
Forzani (UTG): t4982 33.21 BBs
jhughes91 (UTG+1): t1750 11.67 BBs
gibbs42 (UTG+2): t5450 36.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Forzani is UTG with A of diamonds K of clubs
Forzani raises to t377, 3 folds, lince10 calls t377, 1 fold, daaaaaaang16 calls t377, Pythomunoz raises to t10965 all in, Forzani….??

SFpwnt

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August 10, 2010 - 11:05 pm

i dont think I can fold this with 33 bb's. I think I call.

SittingDucks

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August 10, 2010 - 11:45 pm

Quite an easy call. I might lay this hand down after a 9-bet pre, but this is not the case so I call

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August 11, 2010 - 11:43 am

I jam and beat JJ like it's my job.

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August 11, 2010 - 5:27 pm

I'm gonna do this equation assuming that the 2 callers and the BB fold

(if the math is wrong someone please let me know)

blinds are 75/150=225

Our starting stack is 4982 we raise to 377 leaving us 4605 left

we get two callers 2(377)=754

the SB shoves in for 10965 but since they have us covered its basically

a shove equivalent to our starting stack of 4982

150(BB) + 377(our raise) + 754(both callers) + 4982 (SB shove)=6263 in pot

4605 for us to call

100/(6263/4605)+1

100/(1.36)+1

100/2.36=42.37

So we need an equity of 42.37% to make the call

Using Pokerstove I gave them a range of JJ+,AQs+,AKo

and it said AKo has a equity of 42.81%

vs. a range of 99+,AQs+,KQs,AQo+

AKo has a equity of 49.86%

vs. a range of JJ+,AKs,AKo

AKo has a equity of 39.78%

RonFezBuddy

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August 11, 2010 - 5:54 pm

huehertz said:

vs. a range of 99+,AQs+,KQs,AQo+

AKo has a equity of 49.86%

I think this is most likely the range we are looking at although you can probably discount KQs because they probably just call.

I also think there will be some random bluffs and smaller pairs here too which balances that.

It's a call imo, way too many people are making moves on an opener and 2 callers.

pedactor

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August 11, 2010 - 7:30 pm

A couple months ago I would have taken a hammer, slammed it down on my mouse to get my chips in….but I think I let my AK bad runs get into my head on this one.

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August 11, 2010 - 11:57 pm

Ship it in!!!

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August 12, 2010 - 9:21 am

I'd call this so fast I'd go to the hospital for a busted arm. Your hand is going to be up against something pretty strong, but you have the equity.