I would maybe check the turn and re-raise his river bet and fold to a shove. I dunno I'm just a noob.

shortymurphy said:

I think you have to make a decision on the turn….any time you're faced with calling a turn bet, and you feel you're going to have to call the river too, put those chips to use on the turn (same money….), and raise the bettor.  If he calls, you check the river and fold to a bet.  If you're lucky, he's still drawing on the turn and may check behind on the river when he misses as the 3 peels off.  Anyone else have a comment?

I agree, this is what I meant to say.

I agree with you and would normally not check the turn out of position.  I would fire the turn.  But given that he did check on the turn, I like a raise of villain's turn bet better than simply check/calling it down.  Put the same chips to use on the turn and force him to define his hand (did you make the str8?  now you have to answer me).  Villain might simply be floating and trying to take it away on a drawy board (esp if we are perceived as tight, esp with his deeper stack).  A check raise on the turn represents strength, which we certainly have, unless he's got a made hand, which we're going to find out right now.  I guess I was thinking less about representing a hand at that point than about getting information about his hand.  Totally bad??