August 8, 2012
This is the final table of a $4.50 180 man on Stars. If this was just a +cEV spot then I think this is an easy call with AK given that he could be jamming ATs+,AJo+,KQ,JTs+,22+ etc., but given that it's a final table, are we throwing away our equity here? We need 44% to make this a break-even proposition, and with that range stated we're 53.543%. However, given that 46.457% of the time our equity goes down considerably, should we fold? Or is the fact that 53.5% of the time we take the chip lead show us that we have to call in this spot?
Villain is running at 15/14 with a 3b of 3% over 121 hands. His only 3b has come from MP so this is the first time we've seen a 3b in a steal/resteal situation.
Can anyone show me how to work out the Maths of this spot, please? i.e. how does a call against his 'perceived' range affect our equity in % terms and $ terms?
Poker Stars $4.10+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t600/t1200 Blinds + t125 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
SB: BB = 23.1, t27765
BB: BB = 12.5, t14948
UTG: BB = 38.6, t46289
UTG+1: BB = 8.5, t10167
UTG+2: BB = 45.2, t54253
MP1: BB = 40.7, t48788
MP2: BB = 13.7, t16418
CO: BB = 9.0, t10798
Hero (BTN): BB = 33.8, t40574
Pre Flop: (t2925) Hero is BTN with A K
6 folds, Hero raises to t2400, SB raises to t27640 all in, 1 fold, Hero ???
August 8, 2012
Right I've actually had a go at working out the difference of calling vs folding. Let me know if you can see some mistakes in my calculations:
Our equity if we fold is 13.38%
Our equity if we call and win = 18.84%, which happens 53.543% of the time = 10.0875%
Our equity if we call and lose = 7.31%, which happens 46.457% of the time = 3.396%
Add those two figures together you get = 13.4835%, which is 0.1% better than folding. This works out at about +$0.78, which to me seems very marginal.
If we assume a much tighter range, given that it's a final table of say… 44+,AJs+,AQo+,KQs our hand wins 48.957% of the time.
So…
Our equity if we call and win = 18.84%, which happens 48.957% of the time = 9.22%
Our equity if we call and lose = 7.31%, which happens 51.043% of the time = 3.73%
Adding those two together we get 12.95%, which is less than if we'd folded in the first place. It works out at a bout -$3.17, which for me makes this a fold.
What are your thoughts?
October 22, 2012
instacall, if you lose you still have 10bb left, if you win you are chipleader.
in addition the levels go up pretty fast in those tourneys, 5mins if im not wrong.
Easy snap call.
jamo said:
We need 44% to make this a break-even proposition, and with that range stated we're 53.543%.
Villain's stats are a little unsettling but regardless, we have more than enough equity to fist pump/call here. We have 53.5% (closer to 56-57% after card removal imo) vs. villain's assumed range, and we only need 44% equity. None of us can afford to pass up sexy spots like this.
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