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18 left on 29K Gtd micro stack shoves and button flats. I 3bet with Tens BB and Btn calls

isaacjames

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April 1, 2011 - 10:51 pm

This is the 29K Rush Turbo Guaranteed (4766 entrants). There are 18 left and I am in 6th-7th at this point but very shallow as only 14 bbs with only 3 players over 30 bbs. over $6300 to 1st, around $300 to 9th and around $100 for the rest remaining players. I had played a few pots with the villain, he seemed to be still flatting wide despite being shallow as I was able to take one or two potsd from him after Cbetting or raising his cbet.

His stats were (38 hands) 41/18 with Aggr factor of 0.75 Preflop, 4.0 Flop, 3.0 Turn (only 4 turn hands)

Are there ICM considerations here? or just until you reach FT?.

What to do on the turn? (I'll post more action and results after)

Full Tilt Poker $29,000 Rush Guar (Rebuy) No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40000/t80000 Blinds + t10000 – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

hillbill757 (BTN): BB = 15.3, t1222194
starcook1 (SB): BB = 7.3, t586140
IsaacJames (BB): BB = 14.0, t1118909
rocrivero1 (UTG): BB = 1.5, t122716
spacedman (MP): BB = 13.3, t1067017
calvin69 (CO): BB = 14.3, t1143276

Pre Flop: (t180000) IsaacJames is BB with T of diamonds T of hearts
rocrivero1 raises to t112716 all in, 2 folds, hillbill757 calls t112716, 1 fold, IsaacJames raises to t400000 (I should have shoved here didn't I?), hillbill757 calls t287284

Flop: (t1012716) K of hearts 7 of diamonds J of spades (3 players – 1 is all in)
IsaacJames checks, hillbill757 checks

Turn: (t1012716) 8 of spades (3 players – 1 is all in)
IsaacJames checks, hillbill757 bets t160000, IsaacJames ?????

southpaw_r32

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April 2, 2011 - 12:30 am

Shove PREFLOP…. and try to get headsup with the short stacker, I'm not looking to play a pot 3way (with 1 guy ALL IN) out of position with (TT) with only 14xBB's.

As played, PokerStove has you @ 54% fav based on a villain 41%VPIP on the turn……….. maybe you have the best hand here, maybe you don't. I have no idea what villain could be holding, best hope would be small pocket pair and now is trying to push you off your hand?? Maybe villain has slowplayed a monster???

Since you 3bet PF and have shutdown on FLOP/TURN, villain, if he is any sort of hand reader probably has put you on exactly what you have. Since any 2 picture cards has a gutshot straight draw plus over cards as outs AQ/AT etc (u probably jam AQ preflop though) or your slow playing a monster, but with so few BB's left this would seem unlikely.

For me it's either shove/fold, if you just call here, what do you do on a river bet from Villain??? confused Meh, i probably just jam repping a slowplayed monster and hope for a fold and if he calls, suckout on a 9 ball on the river laugh

Board: Kh 7d Js 8s
Dead:

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied
Hand 0:     54.820%     54.31%     00.51%               9391            88.50   { TdTh }
Hand 1:     45.180%     44.67%     00.51%               7724            88.50   { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A3o+, K7o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+ }

kuroshi

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April 2, 2011 - 12:43 am

Definitely calling the turn and trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible, no clue its a tricky spot since both really short and he could just be stealing but it would be like 50/50….. Maybe just peal a river and hope to get lucky and hit a T or 9, its really up to you. If he's bluffing and you call the turn he will probably check the river…. The pot is really big for a side pot and would much rather just call the turn and fold the river if he shoves. Everything is just so awkward its pretty tough, maybe someone else has a better answer. But I'm definitely not reshoving on his turn bet, its either a call or fold. Once the river card comes if its not a 9 or T and he shoves or bets anything I'm folding like 99% of the time.

I realize it sounds sorta fishy calling the turn but your risking 160k 1/6 of your stack at this point to get to showdown cheaply or get lucky on the river and bink a 1.5m chip stack. And he's probably not folding JT the way you played your hand if thats what he has. You will still have 500k chips left and can easily shove/bink a double up the next few hands by folding river here. It's probably not ideal but I think calling the turn is probably best bet.

isaacjames

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April 3, 2011 - 9:02 am

Before I post next street, do we just ignore ICM at this point?

isaacjames

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April 3, 2011 - 3:54 pm

So Anyway here is the rest of the hand. My tohughts are aligned with both of you. looking back I think I should have shoved pre. but as played I toook exactly kuroshi's line. the river was the 8 so no str8 for me and he bet super small again, before you scroll down think if you would have called that last bet leaving you with about 3890000 whicxh was 4 bbs or if you fold and keep 6 bbs, or even shove there. then see results below. I really agonized throughout this hand and clearly could have put myself in an easier spot by shoving pre.

Full Tilt Poker $29,000 Rush Guar (Rebuy) No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40000/t80000 Blinds + t10000 – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Flop: (t1012716) K of hearts 7 of diamonds J of spades (3 players – 1 is all in)
IsaacJames checks, hillbill757 checks

Turn: (t1012716) 8 of spades (3 players – 1 is all in)
IsaacJames checks, hillbill757 bets t160000, IsaacJames calls t160000

River: (t1332716) 8 of hearts (3 players – 1 is all in)
IsaacJames checks, hillbill757 bets t160000, IsaacJames calls t160000

Final Pot:

t1652716
hillbill757 shows Kd Jh (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
IsaacJames mucks Td Th
rocrivero1 mucks Tc Qc
hillbill757 wins t1214568
hillbill757 wins t438148

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