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16.7BBs $5.50 turbo MTT... do you just ship here, raise/call or raise/fold?
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November 16, 2012 - 6:32 pm
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Preflop do we just jam ATs since it's a pretty strong hand given the range of hands we're likely to shove here and we want to get called by worse? 

 

As played, do you cbet here or just try to get to a cheap showdown? Should we bet the turn? On the river, do we fold to his big bet? 

 

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50/t100 Blinds + t10 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

UTG+1: BB = 20.5, t2050
UTG+2: BB = 45.8, t4575
MP1: BB = 17.0, t1700
MP2: BB = 26.6, t2660
Hero (CO): BB = 16.7, t1670
BTN: BB = 1.9, t195
SB: BB = 31.2, t3120
BB: BB = 36.1, t3610
UTG: BB = 7.7, t770

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is CO with T of diamonds A of diamonds
5 folds, Hero raises to t200, 2 folds, BB calls t100

Flop: (t540) 8 of clubs T of hearts J of clubs (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t540) Q of hearts (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t540) 8 of spades (2 players)
BB bets t400, Hero ???

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November 16, 2012 - 7:05 pm
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Personally I think an open shove pre here is ok and will take it down pre most of the times. As played I think we need to cbet the flop vs a bb who’s range is pretty big atm, even on the somewhat coordinated board. The villain has shown no aggression so I think we are ahead here. A shove on the flop might do the same thing but u can get the same info for a cbet with these stacks.

If he check/shoves the cbet we’re kind of in a ugly spot but, eh, I call.

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November 16, 2012 - 8:48 pm
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I think your options preflop here depend a lot on the players on button and in blinds. If they are likely to call a lot then I'd be more likely to jam here. If they are more likely to 3bet or fold then I prefer an open (calling off 1 player, folding if there is a shove and reshove).

When you do open there and get called I like checking back the flop because you are very likely ahead. The only likely worse hands that would continue are FDs, but they are more likely to c/r here, which I wouldn't really love in your spot. So there doesn't seem to be value in cbetting. The same thing on the turn, you are behind most hands that he can call with here. The river means that you are now only beating a stone bluff, which is less likely than being beat on this board imo.

So I like your line post flop, I would check back flop and turn, fold river. 

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