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14bb shove in HJ with 10-8o ITM - correct shove?
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December 27, 2010 - 4:51 pm
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Correct shove here with 14bbs in the Hijack? If I get the shove through I pick up 2100 which is about 20% of my stack.

 

Full Tilt Poker $2 $0.25 On Demand No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t400/t800 Blinds + t100 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Dandala (UTG): BB = 26.7, t21356
Qpids kris (UTG+1): BB = 40.9, t32746
Mr Pay Shent (UTG+2): BB = 3.1, t2471
casinobluf (MP1): BB = 33.7, t26985
Metasploit (MP2): BB = 15.0, t11970
CalimeroGER (CO): BB = 13.3, t10650
Gareth_GTM (BTN): BB = 23.8, t19024
orsa75 (SB): BB = 24.8, t19834
will_broke_durr (BB): BB = 11.2, t8951

Pre Flop: (t2100) Metasploit is MP2 with 8 of spades T of clubs
4 folds, Metasploit raises to t11870 all in, 2 folds, orsa75 raises to t19734 all in, 1 fold

Flop: (t25440) 5 of spades A of hearts 2 of diamonds (2 players – 2 are all in)

Turn: (t25440) 5 of clubs (2 players – 2 are all in)

River: (t25440) J of diamonds (2 players – 2 are all in)

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December 27, 2010 - 5:46 pm
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I used the TPE_Calc Spreadsheet and this is how your hand fairs against 5%, 10% and 15% calling ranges:

 

vs 5% (99+,AQ+) you have 26.58% equity

 

+774 chips

 

Vs 10% (22+,AJo+,AQs+,KQs) you have 34.3% equity

 

+333 chips

 

Vs 15% (22+,A9o+,A2s+,KQ+) you have 35.23% equity

 

-240 chips

 

If the players behind you are all calling tight then I think this is a shove, but if they're a bit looser then I think it's a fold. It's marginal at best though. Overall I think I fold here. T8s has a tiny bit more equity against opponents' calling ranges so I would probably shove that in this spot.

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That is one of the biggest leaks in my game (shoving when it folds to me with 10-15 bb's and I always run into a big hand..ugh) I wonder how low you let yourself get / how many bb's you should have  before you are in definite “I'm shoving if it gets to me” range. I just have such a hard time letting myself get a little low. I always shove and then I look back on it and say damn, I had almost 15bb's there and it was not necessary to open shove. It's something I have to try and work on. I just hate getting to 10bb's and below but to be honest, i'm usually open shoving before I get to that point and it has gotten me nowhere…New Years Resolution – Don't open shove until you get to 10bb's or less LOL

cheers and thanks for the reply.

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mistergj, beautiful post.  Exactly what I was going to do when I saw the thread title.

 

I'd shove given the data above.  Bubble isn't really a factor i assume and I'm looking for any +EV spot to get chips.

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tyty guys. Will use the tpe spreadsheet from now on.

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im not shoveing here

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