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13left 2nd chips button shoves, SB calls ME in BB shove/fold ???
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August 12, 2013 - 8:28 am
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Looking some comments, 13left {winamax} have only 30hands stats against both players … Shove ,call, fold ???

Seat 1: eixip60 (2,552,689)BB Hero
Seat 3: emilou64 (2,425,680)
Seat 4: sami junior (1,801,488)
Seat 5: Slipfest (1,391,962)
Seat 7: kouinos21 (1,234,148)
Seat 8: MULTI WIN (1,079,360)
Seat 9: suspekt77 (3,650,029)SB
*** ANTE/BLINDS ***
suspekt77 posts ante 13500
eixip60 posts ante 13500
emilou64 posts ante 13500
sami junior posts ante 13500
Slipfest posts ante 13500
kouinos21 posts ante 13500
MULTI WIN posts ante 13500
suspekt77 posts small blind 60000
eixip60 posts big blind 120000
Dealt to eixip60 [Tc Ts]
*** PRE-FLOP *** 
emilou64 folds
sami junior folds
Slipfest folds
kouinos21 folds
MULTI WIN raises 945860 to 1065860 and is all-in
suspekt77 calls 1005860
eixip60 ??????????

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August 12, 2013 - 10:03 am
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It's an ICM fold.

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August 13, 2013 - 7:49 am
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FkCoolers said:

It's an ICM fold.

not playing ICM 13 left if we are in the money.

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August 13, 2013 - 8:59 am
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florianm1 said:

FkCoolers said:

It's an ICM fold.

not playing ICM 13 left if we are in the money.

429 being payed

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August 13, 2013 - 9:04 am
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If you have pay increments, the term ICM is acceptable to use. 

It doesn't only have to apply to FT's and bubbles. 

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August 13, 2013 - 9:35 am
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FkCoolers said:

If you have pay increments, the term ICM is acceptable to use. 

It doesn't only have to apply to FT's and bubbles. 

i knwo but icm is/can be heavily overused if an tight icm fold for 0.5buy in prevents us from getting a fair share of top3 spots. and thats all that counts in MTTs.

its a complete different storry if the pay jumps are huge.

if you look at the big162 there the difference between 13th and 12th is about 1.5buy in. but the difference between 12th and 3rd is 10x

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August 13, 2013 - 9:48 am
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Yeah, would be interested in payout structure and what stack we have compared to the 2nd table.

 

Besides that.. with 30 hands you should have some indication I guess if a player is active or not? 

Not sure if it's an ICM fold, normally pay-jumps start from place 9 or 10 and with 13 you at most make only one small jump… not sure what I'd do here,

 

I'd prolly fold in game after timing banking vs unknowns.. but as soon as I know someone is a bit aggro/active I'll ship it here. JJ snap shove

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August 23, 2013 - 8:07 am
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So this is how this hand played out , i found an excuse to fold in reality i bottled it ..

*** FLOP *** [6h 5c Qd]
*** TURN *** [6h 5c Qd][Js]
*** RIVER *** [6h 5c Qd Js][Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
suspekt77 shows [Ac 4s] (One pair : Jacks)
MULTI WIN shows [5d Ah] (Two pairs : Jacks and 5)
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