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$13.50 Knockout - 40bb with JJ facing cold 4bet from an unknown
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November 6, 2013 - 5:31 pm
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I just got moved to this table and this is one of the first hands at the new table.
I've got no reads on anyone except positions, stack sizes and the size of the tournament buy in which are below. Whats your play?
 
 
PokerStars Hand #106603934509: Tournament #811030102, $10.00+$2.50+$1.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (30/60) - 2013/11/06 17:16:04 WET [2013/11/06 12:16:04 ET]

Table '811030102 14' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: mjdsk8 (2406 in chips)
Seat 2: SZCZEPAN002 (2160 in chips)
Seat 3: Pantelija1 (2795 in chips)
Seat 4: ziarehman (7037 in chips)
Seat 5: boarrder (2970 in chips)
Seat 6: balrog4567 (2855 in chips)
Seat 7: ciulinsilvia (3063 in chips)
Seat 8: jamals007 (3624 in chips)
Seat 9: termict (3205 in chips)
ziarehman: posts small blind 30
boarrder: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mjdsk8 [Jc Jh]
balrog4567: folds
ciulinsilvia: folds
jamals007: raises 60 to 120
termict: folds
mjdsk8: raises 180 to 300
SZCZEPAN002: folds
Pantelija1: folds
ziarehman: raises 499 to 799
boarrder: folds
jamals007: folds
mjdsk8: ??????
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I'm not sure why this hasn't formatted properly. Original raiser is utg+3 and opens for min raise. I 3bet in HJ and the SB cold 4bets and the original raiser folds

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Original raiser in utg+3 had 60bb, I had 40bb in CO and the cold 4better in sb had 116bb

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Just Ship it and show that  you can't be pushed around… laugh

OK now srsly. cool As there are no information about this guy the only way to get some of it, you go to sharkscope and see if he's a profitable reg etc. and think in your mind is he capable of making such moves with this stack and in this situation. Or seeing his stack you can think about that he is just running hot and in 20 hands he got dealt AA or KK 3 times and 4bets you with it 😀

If I were in this spot I would ship here with JJ+AK+. You get the fold you win some nice chips, you get called maybe he has AK and you still have a flip, which might lead you to a huge stack. You run in to better hand and lose, no problem you go for other tournaments cool

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Hmm, this is a pretty bad spot really. OR is actually UTG+2 I think here but that is a minor point. Unless you have been really aggro early in this tournament then I would expect the 4 bettors range to be ultra tight and even if you have been aggro then I still cannot see him getting out of line pre-antes. He is effectively committing himself to your stack.

Personally, I think he plays AK and JJ+ this way and that is about it. I have to say I would seriously consider folding JJ in this spot purely because it is so early and I do not think villain will turn up with AK any more than 25% of the time. I even think some villains may possibly fold AK here after your 3bet if they look at the whole situation.

If this spot came up in the middle / later stages with antes and bigger blinds in play then you have to shrug and get it in as people are generally making a play at the pot light more often.

As played I fold and wait for a better spot as I think you are dominated or tying here 75%+ of the time.

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One thing, it is a knockout so maybe the guy is adjusting his range a bit wider for your bounty however at these stakes I doubt that thought process comes around too often so my thoughts still apply as above mainly.

Be interesting to see what the pros say about this spot particularly relating to low stakes versus maybe same situation in high stakes.

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