It originally looked like a clear fold, but after running the numbers I think it’s a shove based on their ranges.  Since the UTG range is so loose, mathemaat’s range can be reeally wide, too.

We are getting way over 3:1 here and if we beat one guy(the 2nd shover) we essentially break even on the hand.  The difference between 15bbs (what we have now) and what we’ll have if we win(35bbs) makes this a really interesting spot that I lean towards a shove on.  Here’s the ranges I put them on based on stacks:

40,009,620,728 games 77.082 secs 519,052,706 games/sec

Board:

Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 19.449% 19.33% 00.12% 7732040496 49999087.00 { 22+, A2s+, K7s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K7o+, Q9o+, J9o+ }

Hand 1: 22.370% 21.50% 00.88% 8600268994 350319018.00 { 66+, A5s+, KJs+, QJs, A8o+, KJo+ }

Hand 2: 32.946% 31.99% 00.96% 12797722013 384511634.00 { 88+, AJs+, AQo+ }

Hand 3: 25.235% 24.85% 00.39% 9940402867 156528635.00 { 99 }

I think if these ranges are right it is fine to get it in…  Let me know if my ranges are off, though.

i play these all day and im never folding 99 here these events u really need ft chips inside top 3 or better is the goal and folding 99 here wont get u there , but i do no the lead raiser hes a soild reg but i doubt i fold here ,