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$11r JJ Early Stages vs EP raiser

micahkg

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February 2, 2012 - 5:27 pm

I butchered this hand a bit….. figured a flop bet gets value from smaller pairs and prob keeps a lot of A high hands in… do you guys agree with flop bet? Obviously going for 3 streets of value was a bit ambitious…. got myself into a real awkward spot on the river…. as played do you fold river?

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t25/t50 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

D1xon (SB): t1840 36.80 BBs
snow2011 (BB): t450 9 BBs
greenkim (UTG): t4480 89.60 BBs
Hero (UTG+1): t5625 112.50 BBs
Knopfler30 (UTG+2): t2755 55.10 BBs
gardentrush (MP1): t2775 55.50 BBs
NYstile (MP2): t4505 90.10 BBs
zebest_666 (CO): t3040 60.80 BBs
Vinga07 (BTN): t2940 58.80 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is UTG+1 with J of spades J of clubs
greenkim raises to t200, Hero calls t200, 4 folds, Vinga07 calls t200, 2 folds

Flop: (t675) K of clubs K of hearts 3 of spades (3 players)
greenkim checks, Hero bets t325, Vinga07 calls t325, greenkim calls t325

Turn: (t1650) 9 of diamonds (3 players)
greenkim checks, Hero bets t725, Vinga07 folds, greenkim calls t725

River: (t3100) 2 of diamonds (2 players)
greenkim checks, Hero bets t1425, greenkim raises to t3230 all in, Hero?

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February 2, 2012 - 6:19 pm

what is greenkim calling the flop bet with other then a K or 33 after vinga07 flat… as played def fold still got around 30BB plenty of chips.

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February 2, 2012 - 6:29 pm

might seem weak, but i reckon i just check behind on the river. dont really see what sorts of hands you can get 3 streets from that you beat. if greenkim has something like TT which is possible, he is definitely folding river. so i would just take a showdown.

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February 2, 2012 - 6:50 pm

When he 4x's UTG and then check calls that flop I really think he has a monster. When both playes call your flop bet I think you should just shut down. When you bet turn and he calls you are 100% beat. Your river bet is awful because you aren't getting called with worse in this spot ever. Unless he makes a hero call with 1010. I think a better line would be to bet smaller on the turn like closer to 500 and then if he calls and checks river you check behind as well.

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February 2, 2012 - 9:33 pm

JLUDEOBV said:

When he 4x's UTG and then check calls that flop I really think he has a monster. When both playes call your flop bet I think you should just shut down. When you bet turn and he calls you are 100% beat. Your river bet is awful because you aren't getting called with worse in this spot ever. Unless he makes a hero call with 1010. I think a better line would be to bet smaller on the turn like closer to 500 and then if he calls and checks river you check behind as well.

+1 to this. well said.

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February 2, 2012 - 10:27 pm

+1 to JLUDEOBV… I sometimes just shove this preflop in a rebuy tho especially to a 4xer.. If he calls with a better pair its a cooler w/e. Go for the double early imo. But as played def check that river the only hand you get value out of is 1010 if you are lucky.

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February 3, 2012 - 3:14 am

Thanks to feralcrab and DannyN13 for the positive feedback! Appreciate it!

micahkg

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February 3, 2012 - 4:23 am

Thanks to all for the feedback…