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11 players left in daily double, bad call?
jshilling09
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November 3, 2010 - 8:29 pm
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Stats on Villain are 19/10/8 over 31 hands

I had been very agressive as it was the FT bubble basically.  My thought process was a shove looks like an overpair or some sort of pair+combo draw.  The only overpairs possilbe are TT+ which i feel like he is 3-betting a lot, especially because he had 3-bet a couple times already, he had the button, and i was opening super wide.  I was UTG, but it's the same as MP as we were 6 handed.  Thinks he raises a little smaller with sets and what not, so I really couldn't figure what I was behind in his range.  Anyway please tear into me for being such a donkey.

Full Tilt Poker Daily Double – B No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t6000/t12000 Blinds + t1500 – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

II7VeNoM2II (BTN): BB = 45.8, t549371
bernardo cesar (SB): BB = 30.6, t367301
STANGAA (BB): BB = 11.4, t136987
jessejames2112 (UTG): BB = 38.3, t459555
TheMassacre11 (MP): BB = 29.2, t350778
sphillips85 (CO): BB = 9.7, t116897

Pre Flop: (t27000) jessejames2112 is UTG with 9 of hearts A of clubs
jessejames2112 raises to t30000, 2 folds, II7VeNoM2II calls t30000, 2 folds

Flop: (t87000) 7 of diamonds 5 of hearts 9 of clubs (2 players)
jessejames2112 bets t60900, II7VeNoM2II requests TIME, II7VeNoM2II raises to t517871 all in, jessejames2112 requests TIME, jessejames2112 calls t367155 all in

Turn: (t943110) 3 of diamonds (2 players – 2 are all in)

River: (t943110) 7 of clubs (2 players – 2 are all in)

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November 3, 2010 - 10:10 pm
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i call there, im not sure my play is right though

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November 4, 2010 - 12:04 am
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I actually think I call as well but this is a strange spot

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November 4, 2010 - 12:09 am
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I would probably call here too. I have ran into overpairs in similar spots a few times lately.

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November 4, 2010 - 9:12 am
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I agree with a call here. Doubt he's shoving that much with a set and he 3-bet's with overpairs pre. I expect to see a worse 9 or some sort of draw here.

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November 4, 2010 - 11:46 am
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Huh… weird. If he's aware of table position in regard to opens he should probably range you on the stronger side even though it's 6 handed and you've been decently aggro.

I think you can see 66, 88, TT, JJ, and maaaaybe some worse 9x hands even though they shouldn't be there. I do think he could also shove sets here as well because your c-bet is huge and he might think that's an overpair and you're going with it on the flop. He could also think the large c-bet is something like AK/AQ and decide to shove his whole range to blow you off your hand.

I'm torn on this one. Everyone is saying call but I'm leaning toward making a nitty fold. Mehhhhhhhh… I'm really stumped here.

I feel like he's either really strong here or has air.

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November 4, 2010 - 11:48 am
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Tartan_Piper said:

I agree with a call here. Doubt he's shoving that much with a set and he 3-bet's with overpairs pre. I expect to see a worse 9 or some sort of draw here.


What type of draws? Is he calling pre with 46 or T8? JT maybe… but can we be certain that he jams with 2 overs and a gutterball? 19/10 isn't really indicative of that type of move.

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I can understand your call but I would be worried because he is the other big stack at the table. He is probably aware that you are the only other person that could hurt him here. It is possible he made a straight but I am thinking overpair.  When I am in these spots and I tangle with the other big stack we both usually have great hands, 9Ao is not a monster. I would fold here, I don't want to risk going out early with two severe shorties at my table and I want to remian the aggressor agianst the big stack.

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November 4, 2010 - 1:11 pm
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I think its a call here, if hes got an over pair i'd be surprised, especially considering theres no 3 bet pre. and I figure in most cases TT+ is 3 betting pre. I think You are most likely going to run into 9T or 88 here. nothing else really makes a lot of sense to me, except maybe him getting a little nuts with overs

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