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11 deep stacks on PS - FT last 6 what to do on flop ?
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March 26, 2013 - 11:25 pm
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the guy is calling a lot before the flop (kind of understand him he have the chip lead and we are all kind of deep…  the blinds is 30 min level). few hands ago, 1 guy limp, i raise from the button and he call me with 45s.  but dont 3 bet to much. when he call my 3 bet, i put him on pp, ak, maybe some suited conector but probably not..

how can i play it better/diffrent ?

 

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t2500/t5000 Blinds + t500 – 6 players – View hand 2156146
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

SeulbA (UTG): BB = 82.9, t414470
i.pr.86 (MP): BB = 89.2, t445903
Hero (CO): BB = 47.6, t238132
parednis (BTN): BB = 62.4, t312148
miltheo1980 (SB): BB = 133.3, t666439
WhatAMonster (BB): BB = 67.6, t337908

Pre Flop: (t10500) Hero is CO with Q of hearts Q of spades
2 folds, Hero raises to t11450, parednis calls t11450, miltheo1980 raises to t35000, 1 fold, Hero raises to t89999, 1 fold, miltheo1980 calls t54999

Flop: (t199448) K of spades 6 of clubs 9 of clubs (2 players)
miltheo1980 checks, Hero  ??

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March 27, 2013 - 11:07 am
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I actually think your play is fine preflop but if you are worried about flatters then you could shove as your stack is less than 10 times villains raise and just the blinds, his squeeze and the initial raise + call is worth at least 20-25% extra on your stack which is valuable without having to run a race.

Having said that, I actually like your 4 bet over the squeeze as it could induce the guy with the big stack to make a play at the pot preflop hoping you might fold a hand like AJ/AQ or some medium / high strength pairs that you decided to test the water with but might fold to a 5 bet shove seeing as you would still have 25-30bbs left if you did fold.

Once he flats you here you really need to know the guys tendencies. Has he called after 3 betting before? Does he flat here with monsters? I really cannot see him flatting with suited connectors unless he is really bad and he would surely fold hands like KQ/KJ/K10. Pocket pairs from about 88 and below I think fold to your 4 bet as there are no set mining odds and AK shoves all in against you so I think the guy has AJ/AQ type hands, a pocket pair 99-JJ where he may jam if the flop comes low or he hits set but will give up if the flop hits your high card range. Alternatively he could be trapping with a monster AA/KK in which case you are in trouble.

I think as played I would shove the flop after his check. If he has you beaten with AA/KK/AK so be it. If he has 99-JJ he may decide that its good enough to go with anyway given that only one high card beats him and you have huge value if he ever does that. With 35% of your stack in preflop I think you are committed to the pot at this stage and you would be betting 140k into 200k which is by no means a huge bet. I think I would try to win it now and hope he heroes with a lower pair or we suck out if he has us beaten.

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March 27, 2013 - 11:11 am
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Apologies, obviously 99 also has you beaten above as well but I still think I go with it and hope he calls with some weird hand that he has played terribly preflop.

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having a pot-size bet left id either jam or ch/call a jam, depending on how spazzy villain might be post. most cases i lean toward a jam. don't worry, i think AK is getting in with you pre a lot of the time so a K shouldnt do too much against you that often. as played i think you just have to go with it

i disagree with just shoving pre as i think it only gets called by a few amount of hands (very strong hands)

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after he checked i bet ,he shove and i call. he had ak…

 

i guess nothing else to do here…

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