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$11 4 max on Pokerstars: Final table bubble & FT hands vs Chipleader
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January 10, 2018 - 5:16 pm
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I played five hands versus an aggressive opponent. My opponent put me to some difficult decisions in some spots. In some spots I was last to act but I was not sure about what I should do. I did not post my final action or thoughts at the decision points because I want feedback on how you guys would play these hands if you were in the same situation. The hands are in the order they were played and I removed the redundant information. Feel free to answer any way you wish. A simple (call, fold,check, call, call) type of answer is fine as well 😀 Thanks for the feedback in advance!

1st Hand (2nd hand after opponent moved to table; no reads)

PokerStars – 1000/2000 Ante 250 NL (4 max) – Holdem – 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 134.62 BB (VPIP: 25.49, PFR: 10.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
Hero (CO): 141.3 BB
BTN: 56.01 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 13.75, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 84)
SB: 30.05 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 19.35, Hands: 90)

4 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has Tclub Tdiamond

Hero raises to 2.2 BB, BTN calls 2.2 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.8 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB, fold

Flop: (22.8 BB, 2 players) 8spade 7heart Jclub
BB bets 8.66 BB, Hero calls 8.66 BB

Turn: (40.13 BB, 2 players) 3club
BB bets 31.3 BB

Hero ???

2nd Hand

3 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.87 BB) Hero has 7diamond 5spade

fold, SB raises to 2.88 BB, Hero calls 1.88 BB

Flop: (6.13 BB, 2 players) 5club 3spade 4spade
SB bets 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB

Turn: (11.13 BB, 2 players) 4club
SB checks, Hero bets 5.68 BB, SB raises to 17.5 BB, Hero calls 11.82 BB

River: (46.13 BB, 2 players) 9heart
SB bets 110.96 BB and is all-in

Hero ???

3rd Hand

3 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.87 BB) Hero has Tclub 6club

fold, SB raises to 2.88 BB, Hero calls 1.88 BB

Flop: (6.13 BB, 2 players) 8heart Jheart Tspade
SB bets 4.79 BB, Hero calls 4.79 BB

Turn: (15.71 BB, 2 players) 5diamond
SB bets 12.25 BB

Hero ???

4th hand

3 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.87 BB) Hero has 9diamond Qheart

Hero raises to 2.75 BB, fold, BB calls 1.75 BB

Flop: (6.37 BB, 2 players) 3spade Kclub Tdiamond
BB checks, Hero bets 3.25 BB, BB calls 3.25 BB

Turn: (12.88 BB, 2 players) 3diamond
BB checks, Hero bets 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB

River: (30.88 BB, 2 players) 3heart
BB checks

Hero ???

5th hand (on FT)

5 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has Aheart Tdiamond

fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, SB calls 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.62 BB, 3 players) Aclub 2club Jspade
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 3 BB, SB calls 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (15.62 BB, 3 players) Kclub
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: (15.62 BB, 3 players) 6diamond
SB bets 11 BB

Hero ???

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Hey! We can’t have unanswered threads. I will try to take a look at a hand later to give my thoughts…if not tomorrow. 

Just a bit of advice from a forum dinosaur…I have found if I make my threads too complicated or too much work they get less attention…5 hands is a lot to work through in one go!

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January 18, 2018 - 10:39 pm
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I noticed Riceman! Will make future threads shorter 😀 Thanks

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January 23, 2018 - 6:26 pm
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Hey I haven’t forgotten it…I promise I’ll take a look asap!

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On hand one I like a fold on the turn. In my general analysis of databases people bet pretty heavily there with a mad hand or a big draw, neither of which you have great equity against. You are getting bluffed a certain percentage of the time, but there’s not a lot you can do about it.

On hand two, there’s nothing wrong with folding preflop. I sometimes raise flop because BVB people call stupidly wide and I can get thin value and bet to buy the showdown on the turn. 

As played, turning your hand into a bluff on the turn is fine. You fold hands with decent equity and some superior fives. I hate the turn call however. You have to ask yourself, “is my hand depending on the next street being checked and, if so, how often is that happening?” If he’s capable of checkraise bluffing this turn then he is capable of firing river, and I don’t see many people call down. Most of the time too the guy has it here. You can give up after he checkraises. You played the hand fine.

On hand three, this is the same situation. You’re calling with a hand on the flop that is begging for turn and river to be checked. That is only happening 10-20% of the time, which is another way of saying you’re consenting to folding and losing 80 to 90% of the time. 

Turn your hand into a bluff and checkraise bluff the size of the pot or check/fold in my opinion.

On hand four, I think you can only double barrel turn if you think all of his ace highs are check/calling the flop and check/folding the turn. On the river I’d give up.

On hand five, there is no right answer on the river, but the biggest problem is you did not threebet preflop. All weaker aces are calling your threebet, and AK might announce itself and fourbet. Bigger pairs might announce themselves and fourbet. 

If the board comes Ace high you can bet 5X, 10X, 20X and collect from a variety of weaker pairs from these types of players. You can even scale the river down to 14X. The vast majority of guys cannot bluff at all on later streets, and are especially bad at raising pairs as a converted bluff.

Most “aggressive” players are barrel and threebet happy. If you take away their toys they’re generally powerless.

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1. Folding turn seems good, you have plenty of Jx and some sets/straights to protect you here anyway so there’s no need to call TT versus a large sizing.

2. I think I like everything up to the turn call. Betting turn for value/freeroll denial is good, but it’s such a dynamic board that there are almost no good rivers on which you can call another bet. This 9h is a complete brick, and yet it’s still hard to call. You should have some 4x and straights to protect your turn b/c range going into river, so there’s no need to b/c 75o.

3. I almost just want to fold flop here. You have so many better hands to call or raise with here, and versus this big sizing you have to expect aggression on future streets. T6 improves so rarely and is so vulnerable that I think I prefer a flop fold.

4. I don’t like a raising strategy BvB versus a player you know hates folding. Much prefer limping there. Also strongly dislike a strategy that involves c-betting into that same player on a board that is most likely going to leave you about 50/50 in terms of range advantage at best. I would just check my entire range here, I think Q9o can go into either a check-call or check-raise range with few issues, probably defaulting to check-raise. Worth remembering that if you’re opening a high % of hands BvB, it’s really hard to justify anything more than a really low c-bet frequency OOP, since so much of your range is just really weak. It’s easier to protect yourself by just checking everything.

5. Probably just folding tbh. I think 3-betting preflop is fine, flatting is okay as long as you feel comfortable postflop against these two players. If you have ambiguity about the SB’s bluffing frequency in a spot like this – where it’s hard for them to have many bluffs, and hard for them to thin value-bet – then I imagine 3-betting preflop has more value for you here.

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Thanks for the feedback guys! 

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