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10's Facing Min Raise
checkraizer1
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March 11, 2011 - 8:18 am
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Not sure bout my play here looking for some suggestions.

 

Poker Stars $1.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50/t100 Blinds – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): t2850 28.50 BBs
kleiderb�SB): t1045 10.45 BBs
14129088 (BB): t3000 30 BBs
mazhor333 (UTG): t7585 75.85 BBs
Keltoj (UTG+1): t3000 30 BBs
poldar88 (MP1): t7720 77.20 BBs
piulica_82 (MP2): t2950 29.50 BBs
anverto (CO): t12650 126.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BTN with T of spades T of diamonds
4 folds, anverto raises to t200, Hero raises to t500, 2 folds, anverto calls t300

Flop: (t1150) 2 of diamonds 6 of diamonds 8 of hearts (2 players)
anverto bets t400, Hero raises to t1000, anverto calls t600

Turn: (t3150) K of spades (2 players)
anverto checks, Hero checks

River: (t3150) 7 of hearts (2 players)
anverto bets t200, Hero calls t200

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March 11, 2011 - 9:11 am
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Any reads on the villian?

I think your 3bet should be larger….he is getting too good a price to call. Make it a little more.

Flop is great for you and he donk leads…..jam man! Double fist pump jam this flop!

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March 11, 2011 - 9:25 am
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Hadnt seen him min raise yet so I was a bit unsure of what that was about.  Figured it wasnt AK cause i couldnt imagine a scenario where anyone would make that play.  I really hated my check on the turn after looking at it again.  I think if he does have a hand like JJ or QQ (highly doubtful)  I can turn my hand into a bluff here?  I guess his lead took me off guard on the flop.  Kinda looked like AA except for the fact that if he had AA i would think he'd check here and not try and blow me off a smaller pair.

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March 11, 2011 - 9:40 am
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woooo! How on earth are you giving him a range of JJ QQ or AA??? Sounds like you give your opponent way too much credit. I would watch vids on giving your opponents proper hand ranges if I were you sir…I think it could help you a lot.

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March 11, 2011 - 10:08 am
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Ok with that said what would you be putting him on in that spot.  Honestly I never wouldve put him on what he was holding.  After seeing his hand I realyzed I wasnt dealing with a real good player.  But with no history it seems like a spot where someone might min raise in late pos just trying to get value on a big hand.  I will take your advice however.

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March 11, 2011 - 10:26 am
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hawkeyeK9 said:

Any reads on the villian?

I think your 3bet should be larger….he is getting too good a price to call. Make it a little more.

Flop is great for you and he donk leads…..jam man! Double fist pump jam this flop!


Hawkeye is right, shove or at least make it $650 on the flop! At micro stakes, this early, he is probably a donk betting with any 2.

If he has a cooler, JJ or better, so be it.

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March 11, 2011 - 10:39 am
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Not sure what your saying.  I reraised the flop esentially commiting myself here.  Normally when you stick half your remaining chips in on the flop the guy is either shoving or leaving.  His call threw me off.  Not debating the fact that preflop raise shouldve been more.  But no one is putting him on a range here.  Its easy to say the guy is a donk but this is a common line with AA at micros.  Not comfortable with just looking down at 2 cards and just getting it in if im not sure where my competition is at. 

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March 11, 2011 - 10:59 am
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I 3x or maybe as much as 4x his min raise pre since at these stakes he isn't raise/folding preflop too often. A 2.5x is just sweetening the pot since he's pretty much always calling, donk thinks 'its only 300 more, bargain'

 

At these stakes the weak donk bet usually means 'i dont wanna pay too much to see the turn card, lets play nice'. So this bet tells me he has a range of A9+ hands like 67,56, small pockert pair under 88 or a diamond draw. He pretty much never has an 8, set or an overpair here. We are ahead here 90% of the time and he has plenty of draws and weak one pair hands that he's calling with so it's a must raise.

 

The raise to 1k leaving yourself 1350 and making the pot 3150 is commiting you to the pot. In this situation the best play is just jamming over him on the flop. I wouldn't ever leave myself this stack to pot ratio on the turn unless i had a monster hand and wasn't scared of any card. Get the chips in here, you get plenty of calls from weaker hands.

 

Turn isn't the best card for you to get value from since it scares his 3rd or 4th pair hands. That said, its still pretty safe, he shouldn't have too many Ks in his hand. You should be shoving here since none of the draws got in and he still has the them in his range. HE should never be folding any hand at this point given the odds.

 

The river lead, again, is very weak. At these stakes bets usually are what they appear. I dont see them ever do this with a strong hand wanting you jam over it. He has a weak hand prolly a 6 or pocket 3s, he wants to get to showdown cheap. Just jam for value.

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March 11, 2011 - 11:05 am
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Sorry my bad was looking at your preflop bet amount.

The point is to make it painful for him to call you. If you think he is min betting the flop with a monster to get action, you should probably just fold, otherwise shove. 

Most likely he has a diamond draw, but if you think he has an over pair, which it seems like you do, fold.

If he does call your shove with AA KK or whatever, its a cooler and your out a $1.10. So fire up another and hopefully run better.

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March 11, 2011 - 11:16 am
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Thanks for the feedback everybody.  Yeah I hate my pre flop raise and the turn check.  Your guess is pretty close.  Hoping this turns into a sweat thread….down to 137.  Ill be doing some HH checks soon.

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March 11, 2011 - 11:33 am
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So what did he have dude?

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March 11, 2011 - 11:38 am
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He had 5's.  Thought i'd keep you hangingsmile!

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March 11, 2011 - 12:21 pm
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I think his bet sizing was the key read for me here. People at these stakes don’t get fancy with their sizing. He’s pretty transparent the whole way. Im pretty sure It’s not the same at higher stakes though and you get more people using the weak lead to induce action.

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March 11, 2011 - 1:41 pm
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Raise pre bigger, raise flop bigger, shove turn. 

This guy hasn't shown a single sign of strength anywhere in this hand. 

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