packallama said:

You didn't specify if this was pre or post-ante, but I think I would flat from the BB either way. We have the correct implied odds to set mine getting over 15 to 1 in a multiway pot. With that said, I wouldn't be strictly set mining because flatting here underreps our hand. The other players will assume we are flatting from the BB with a fairly wide range and TT is the exact top of that range. Now this spot would be even harder if we were on the BU perhaps, but I think flatting is the best option again. We may end up calling one on a board with one over and then folding to further action, but I don't see a better option. I think folding is unreasonable and 3betting doesn't get us action from worse unless we have history with either player.

This is pretty spot on with respect to the 'standard' play, and one I would opt to against majority of opponents. However with reads there will be plenty of times you can squeeze.  From my understanding of this generic spot the action is as follows:

360 raise, 360 call, and folded to hero in BB with 3.8k total (I am under the assumption this is effective stack, mainly that OR has at least 3.8k).  Including our BB there is 120+360+360+60(Sb)+(250ish antes) = 1150 and we have to call 240.  This satisfies the 5/10 rule in that the 240 is not at least 10% of effective stacks(aka we are getting over 10:1).  We also have the best hand THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME.  I mean we have the 5th best hand, assuming opener also has like 99/88/77/ak/aq we have the best hand well over 50% of the time and that extra range is conservative.

Now when to squeeze?  The biggest factor is read on OR.  If he is capable of shoving over a squeeze(of to like 1250), a lot lighter then he is willing to call a shove of 3.8k then its a good spot to squeeze.  How much is a lot lighter?  well a standard(read: a generalized average) calling range I would give in this spot would be 77+/AQs+/AKo.  Which we are 48% against, which given the dead money should be marginally +EV.  However agasint an aggro OR and with a decent image we can raise and get more hands in his range that we dominated, like 66/55/A9s type hands. 

danrose29 said:

ty the antes have just kicked in but are very small so not that significant, the flop is 652 if i flat pre and call one street im putting in quite a lot of chips that il lose, i dunno, sometimes u shove and get a call from aq ak aj 99 88 but it seems like tricky spot, i suppose next time il call and re assess on flop and turn, what if it comes 239 and guy in middle has 22 and utg raiser has ak, ak may check middle pos player bets ur screwed ul lose big pot proberly. I saw andre aakari shove 1010 30bbs in big tourny after early  pos raise and call and the early pos raiser called off with 99

There are a few points in this post I dont like.  The first it seems like you are falling prey to the selective memory bias.  Rarwly are people going to fold 99 to a shove from you here, so the aakari hand is something that could easily happen to you.  You also have to realize he is a very aggro player, this image allows him to do stuff like this and get called pretty light.  I dont know your image but if its similar you should be able to get away with the same play rather easily.

Also it seems like you may be playing a tad to passive postflop(although nothing is objectively wrong with your 652 flop flat, its far from a 100% flat).  You also act like once you call the flop you are just giving away chips.  This is not the case. 

This flop (652) wouldnt be a bad spot to check raise.  It is also a great spot to donk lead small.  You liekly have the best hand, it is 3 way so a cbet from OR isnt guaranteed, and if the flatter isnt someone who bets IP checked to a lot then its likely it goes check around, which isnt what you want.  A small donk lead can induce a spaz from OR, or even flatter, as its an unorthodox line to take.

The last point is the 22 hitting a set.  When playing poker, there are two types of set mines, ones where the person has odds to set mine, and ones where the person doesnt have odds.  Either way you cant be mad, in one(they have odds), they are playing fine poker, if you have an overpair to the board it could mean you go but or double them up.  That happens.  in the other, they are attempting to gift you chips, if they still hit when calling and not getting odds, then so be it, congrats to them, but longterm they will bleed chips in those spots.

In poker, when you are not aplying with the nuts or near nut hands.  You will ALMOST always be palying agaisnt a range that has some hadns that beat you, there is no way around it.  Its liek when you have KK pre and guy shoves 5 BBs in MP, your goal isnt to disect if he has AA this time, AA is possible, he may have it and you may be behind, bu that is irrelevent.

It seems you need to focus on the mental aspect of veiwing peopls plays as ranges and not as hands.  yes THIS time they showed up with XX exactly, but thats not important to long term poker profitability.  Whats important is understanding what he COULD have and if your play is good based off that assumption.  It is also useful to understand how strong is his range must be to make a certain play bad, aka the crossover point, where any looser a play is good and any tighter a play becomes bad.  Understanding this range helps you understand the profitability of your plays more.