AK Mr Blonde,
I feel what you’re saying. I agree that breaks can be a great refresher, but it seems to me that a break isn’t going to help you very much. It sounds like you need to put in some work on your mental game. I don’t mean this to sound harsh. For one thing, I don’t know any player who doesn’t need to work on some area of their mental game. But for you, it sounds like you’ve got some mental game leaks that are, like you said, costing you stacks at the table, and will continue to do so until you’ve fixed those leaks. It can be hard work, too hard for some, to correct issues with your mindset, but let me tell you, it’s worth it! So many of us separate the mental game and our strategy work when we should be looking at them as one in the same. You might as well throw strategy out the window if you’ve got mental game leaks that are costing you more than your sound strategy can make up for. Strategy and mental game go hand in hand and should both be focused on consistently. My suggestion for you is to find a good mental game coach to help put you on a path of success. I’ve been working with a mental game coach (in addition to a strategy coach) and I can’t even begin to tell you how much it’s improved not only my game, but my life general. The coach keeps me accountable, inspired, and looking honestly at where I need to improve. Yes it can be expensive. But so can dumping stack after stack. And like the previous poster said, just recognizing that you have these leaks is a huge first step. Now be the player who does the hard work of fixing them, whatever that might mean for you.
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February 5, 2015
Hey AK Mr Blonde…you sound to me like a cross between a Bond villain and…well actually you sound to me like a Bond villain exactly!
In some ways I am envious of your predicament. I am suffering the opposite problem…I have the “I can’t win” mindset!
Im not much of a believer in rigged poker sites. I believe in badly managed sites or sites which are unable to pay out, but not rigged. Too many people would need to be involved in the rigging of the site that it would come out soon enough. Then again, you had Absolute Poker.
My strong feeling is that you were having some kind of blistering heater there, and now variance is levelling the field once more.
That is a pretty dangerous mindset right there with getting so involved with your own hand you ignore villain’s(‘) hand(s).
The top players are not only considering their own hands and range, they are considering villain ranges, and how villain is likely to be perceiving their range, and even what they think villain thinks they think villain has.
Wow now I’ve even confused myself.
I think that is right!
April 14, 2016
Yeah, I have been through this over and over again.
What I find is when your playing well and variance is on your side you feel indestructible and invariably you start to change your game. It is subtle but it does change, the longer the good variance the more it will change. 3betting more, opening wider, blffing more etc.
Your mind will relate this to playing well, then variance will reverse and you will continue playing the slightly adjusted way compounding it. Bad play plus bad variance. Basically the reverse of what it was before and suddenly your roll plummets.
However like a phoenix from the embers, you start to study your game again realise what your doing wrong, learn some new stuff. Sometimes stay in a slump for a long time, maybe take some time off. Eventually you start playing well again and forget about making money and concentrate on making good decisions. You stop losing money maybe even start making a small amount or lose money vary slowly.
Then one day the variance is back in your favour and your off again. This seems to be how poker is a constant cycle.
Even once your realise this you can find that even when you play your best you can loose for a long time especially in MTTs.
The funny thing is I keep telling myself these things yet I am still not analysing my own game properly. As I type this I think this is what I am going to do.
Check the EV of each of my sessions each time I play from now on. Not look at my bank roll but look at my total decisions. Was it plus EV or -EV and some up some how the total and try and improve this each time and ignore the bankroll.
In answer to your question, I think you were on a patch of good variance. Even if you kept playing as well it is not likely you would continue to final table as much all the time. I am suggesting to you what I am suggesting to myself, concentrate on each decision in isolation and ignore if you are winning or loosing. Take pride/joy in each decision and ignore what happens after the decision from a point of getting unlucky or lucky but don’t ignore process of the decision i.e. check later if it was correct using some form of analysis. EV calcs, posting here etc.
TPE Pro
August 25, 2012
I think what people are missing is that we need to step away entirely from thinking in terms of winning and losing, to the extent that that is actually possible. It’s a difficult thing to do, but in an ideal world we would never even know how much money we were making or losing, since the results we get are irrelevant with respect to how well we’re actually playing.
The only thing that matters is the EV of our decisions and the quality of our play. Stay focused on that, make sure you’re measuring those factors instead of measuring results, and things will get easier over time.
February 5, 2015
There are many similarities between the worlds of poker and trading. I have only dabbled in the stock market, so I am no expert, but I have read that this is true over and over again in the years I have been studying poker.
Apparently, successful poker players can assume they will be successful traders, but it doesn’t necessarily work the other way round…IE a successful trader should not assume he will be able to become a successful poker player.
I have absolutely no idea why this might be the case.
TPE Pro
August 25, 2012
The Riceman said
There are many similarities between the worlds of poker and trading. I have only dabbled in the stock market, so I am no expert, but I have read that this is true over and over again in the years I have been studying poker.Apparently, successful poker players can assume they will be successful traders, but it doesn’t necessarily work the other way round…IE a successful trader should not assume he will be able to become a successful poker player.
I have absolutely no idea why this might be the case.
It’s because poker is a direct competition against other players. I don’t know much about trading, but to my knowledge you’re just trading against the market, essentially – when you’re playing poker, you win and lose versus other people.
Many people are so attached to the idea of winning and losing that it takes them a long time to separate themselves from results. It’s not just about the money, it’s about the confidence and validation that comes with a good result, or the disappointment and self-doubt that comes with bad ones.
In short, poker can be much more brutal on your ego than trading can, especially if you go into poker with an out-of-control ego in the first place.
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