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Paradoxes in How we Think About Poker
DuckinDaDeck
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July 5, 2018 - 12:27 pm
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I recently did a bit of reading about paradoxes, and it got me thinking about where there might be paradoxes in my strategic approach to poker. This was inspired by watching Vsauce2’s video on the subject:

I have a couple of ideas but I’ll start by summarizing 3 types of paradoxes. Hopefully that will generate more discussion than me starting off with my own convoluted and half-formed ideas about where they might exist in poker thought.

1) Falsidical Paradoxes

These are questions which lead to an incorrect (often nonsensical) answer which we are unable to disprove. The key component of Falsidical paradoxes is that they are demonstrably false when thoroughly investigated, but may require new knowledge or ways of thinking about the question before they can be disproved.

For example, the video highlights a paradox involving a fast runner and a tortoise first conceptualized in Ancient Greece. The paradox was clearly absurd to even a casual observer, but could not be proven false until the invention of calculus, some 2000 years later.

2) Veridical Paradoxes

These are solutions to problems that initially defy logic but can be proven categorically true upon further investigation. This often requires breaking down the presuppositions which frame the initial question, and approaching the problem from a new angle.

The video uses an example where a contestant picks 1 of 3 hidden prizes on a game show, with 1 of those prizes being clearly preferable. If the host reveals one of the other prizes, which will never be the most desirable prize (otherwise the drama of the moment falls apart), the contestant should always switch their choice if allowed to. This logically seems like a pointless 50/50 decision, but can be mathematically demonstrated to double he contestant’s odds from 33.3% to 66.6%.

3) Antinomy

This is the type of paradox which most readily comes to mind when we think of paradoxes. These are situations which can’t be true but also can’t be false. They create a ‘crisis in logic.’

The video gives two examples:

The grandfather paradox – if you time travel and kill your grandfather before the birth of your father, how could you ever be born? You can’t possibly go back in time if you never existed but you can’t possibly cease to exist if you’re unable to go back in time.

The liar’s paradox – the sentence “I am lying” can neither be true or false.

 

Many historical advancements in thought have been the result of discovering that an apparent Antimony is in fact Falsidical or Veridical. Considering how poker theory is still in the early stages of development, it must be the case that there are plenty of dilemmas which seem unsolvable (or which are falsely assumed to be solved) that are just waiting for the discovery of false or misleading premises.

Anyone care to venture some ideas, or share ‘aha!’ moments from your experiences that changed they way you think about poker?

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I like this post and I am going to get back when I get the time…been super busy this last year…

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I told you I’d get back to this and I have…but sadly I have drunk a whiskey and it is 330 am. 

I have so much to say about this. But let me just blow my own trumpet here for a second if I may…

The first example in the video…the Falsidical paradox. Brother, did this dude Xenon or whatever his name was get famous with this? “Confounded great minds until the development of calculus”?

I invented this paradox myself, when I was a kid! The Rice Paradox was, in effect, the Runner/ Tortoise Paradox, but it took a different form:

Death is a physical impossibility. Every space, or space in time is divisible by two. Therefore the actual moment of death is an impossibility, because we will never reach the point in time when the body actually dies…whilst it lives, it lives…and because every temporal space is divisible by two, mathematically we can’t possibly ever reach the actual “moment” of death.

I came up with this when I was about 10 years old…when I heard the guy in the video talk about the runner/ tortoise paradox, it came immediately to mind! 

Brother…if we had not yet invented/discovered/solved calculus, and this wanker Xenon hadn’t beaten me to it…then the “Rice Paradox [would have] confounded great minds until the birth of calculus”.

I have so much to say about the rest of this video…I can’t wait!

I always knew I was a legit genius…but I always thought I was probably just some twat with an overblown ego and narcissistic tendencies…but now I see I invented the Falsidical Paradox when I was a young man…hombre…tonight…I crown myself a Great Thinker. Delusional be damned!

(I’m a trifle delusional from the JD and coke mind you).

Poker is a game for intellectuals. This might sound like an arrogant comment but I believe it to be true. Just look at how many great players have a background in either philosophy, or mathematics, or both.

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