May 23, 2013
Some of the terminology you have used would suggest that you’ve read mental game of poker. If you have, read it again and do the exercises and work the book as instructed. I had read the book 2 years ago, but I did not put it to use. I’m now on a downswing where all sorts of tilt came out that I had not experienced before and I’m re-reading and actually doing the work this time around. I’m also listening to #2 on audiobook. These two resources are invaluable, but you must work at it.
My mindset in the last 2 weeks, despite still taking the rough end of variance, has never been better. Took some silly beats deep this week, where difference was a ft or making $20 and I didn’t raise an eyebrow, just moved on. Yesterday I had a particularly rough day and felt like I was falling back to old ways, but I noticed it and went through some steps to stop things in place. The mind is a powerful thing and it has the ability to really mess with you, but I think these books can put you back in control. It’s not just about tilt, it deals with motivation, confidence, variance, both when on the positive and negative side.
February 15, 2013
A couple of things:
When I think about tilt, my goal is to not allow people see me do it. When I take a bad beat and get knocked out, I want to be the one to shake hands and head out even if I am bothered inside. I want other players to view me as handling it like a pro.
Why are you tilted? If it’s because you got caught bluffing, that’s different from getting rivered. Either way, you need to tighten up and continue to work towards that perfect image.
Note: Warlord and I play in the same local tournament. It is filled with mostly old guys who want to beat the young guys. They go out of their way to do so.
I have spoken to you about your image. You were always looking for spots. The way they view you is loose aggressive. When you play tight and don’t play a lot of hands, you are not using your image properly. If they think you are always bluffing, bet for value. You really don’t need to bluff very much in that game other than for balance. If we all raised, checked and folded the exact same amount, no one would be profitable. Image is everything. I think you view myself, Kyle and Kim as the best in the game. Think about why. Incorporate the things you notice with how we deal with tilt.
You always listen to music. Use it to help control your tilt. If you just lost a hand and start to tilt, put something calming on. If you are playing too tight, put some Rage Against The Machine On! Don’t play another hand until you are mentally ready unless it’s huge. See you soon.
May 23, 2013
I definitely would go back and read TMGP 1 and really work the book. Setup your mental and tactical goals for the session. Warm-up. Build your injecting statements to right the ship when things are going off course. Experiment with deep breathing when you notice the onset of tilt and bad thoughts. Once you get good at this, it shouldn't take you away from the table, you shouldn't need an orbit to calm down, you'll learn to do it and get yourself on track before the tilt builds up. One beat will no longer set you over the edge and that's important. A big part of TMGP 1 and 2 is doing the work away from and at the table so that you become hyper sensitive to the issues at hand. This has worked very well for me, I'm only 3 weeks in, but now I hardly get phased about the beats. I took some unfortunate ones with 50 left in several 1K-2K runner fields and if it were 3 weeks ago I would have blown up, but I'm learning to embrace the variance and no longer linking results with my emotions or how I'm playing.
Your short term goals are good ones, but take it a step further split out into tactical and mental goals. And practice these over and over until you do them without thought, this is when it becomes part of your instinct or “unconscious competence” and it should be what you are striving for. Don't confuse things by changing your goals a bunch, you can tweak them from session to session, but don't remove one until it's a learned thing, easily done when you think about it and then done on it's own.
One of my tactical goals has been to up my 3b and 4b percentage. I had been keeping up my VPIP/PFR, but my 3b and 4b was < 5% most of the time, so the goal for all of the sessions the last 3 weeks has been to increase this amount, I didn't set a goal amount, just move in the right direction, what I'm finding is I'm opening slightly less hands now, but 3b more often and it's netting more chips. The stacks I've had deep are much larger then in the previous months and I think it's partially due to this. By doing this at every session and focusing on it, it's becoming a learned thing, something I have to think less about. The 2nd part of the goal I set was more mental, and that's not to back down from spots because I'm worried about a negative result. A fun hand that happened as a result was last sunday, a guy opening 25% of pots opens the co, and the button who is 3betting 11% 3bets and has a high fold to 3b% (which makes me think his fold to 4b would be higher). I have ATo in the sb and normally I'd snap muck this, but decided what better time then to cold 4b with 50bb. He folds, flop comes Txxr and I cbet small, he snap jams and I call. He has 44 and I win a huge pot, one that I never put myself in position to win before. I went deep in this tournament, but did not reach the final table. I lost on the day, but when I was doing the cool down I reviewed this hand and others and felt good about the progress and know that with some time things like this will happen more often and I'll propel deeper with larger stacks. Another reason why I bring this up is despite the results on the day there was many positives that happened. I'm no longer linking cash in the cashier with how I'm playing because it's not important in the short run.
You are right that things in your normal life can effect poker and it's great that you are being aware of when you shouldn't play. But also be aware that you should try some mental improvements to allow yourself to play even when under these stresses. Set a mental goal to not allow the outside to effect what you are doing at the table. An injecting logic statement might be something like “Playing poker allows me to block out the outside world, enjoy the time in peace”.
Your long term goal is an interesting one. And your statement that you don't think you can do it this session is negative. Winning the tournament can actually be a short term goal, it could happen the next time you play. You could play horribly and still win. A better goal might be to play your best and improve each time you play. See if you play your best and improve then the results will come. Also once you win the tournament that will give you much needed confidence, but it doesn't show that you played good or that variance was way on your side. See the difference?
When I read your HH recap one thing strikes me as something I had done before and that's talking about not having any playable hands. The thing is that you don't need playable hands. It's not about the hands, it's about the spots and playing aggressive in those spots. There had to be times that you got Ax after a raise, or 86s, or even 79o. Maybe one of your tactical goals for the next session could be to 3b the bottom of your calling range each time the opportunity presents itself and the opener is active. You'll be surprised how much fun it is to play poker when the hands don't matter. Or how fun it is when you smash a straight or two pair and get it in with someone who can't fold.
Reading the TT hand I can hear that you might have some tilt still from the hand. Saying things like they call with nothing and cause you to fade every draw suggest you are still upset. Some injecting logic might be “I can't control what others do with their cards, I can only play my best” or “It's good that they got in with me in that spot, in the longrun I'm going to gain chips”. Pre flop you have 50% equity 3 handed. On the flop you have 58%, and 64% on the turn. Yes you lost the hand, but seeing this should encourage you that it's profitable in the long run and it's not going to happen every time and when your hand holds you will win a nice pot.
As you open more pots you might also start working on your bet size. That was a big raise UTG and the bet on the flop is big, these guys should be folding based on that alone, but you are not giving them room to tool out. What if your bet pre and on the flop was a bit smaller and one of them decided to raise instead of call, you could be playing a big pot heads up where you have the villian crushed. Good things like that happen when you induce instead of bet to protect. I'm not saying this specific board is the best place for that, but it's one of the many things you can work on to improve.
Good stuff on taking the breaths and listening to music, if that works for you to keep calm, excellent. Injecting logic that it's just a game and you are not losing the grocery money is great too, all positive steps.
NH on jamming the 733 board. Taking spots like that where you feel it and know to do it are huge.
On the TT hand, again it seems like you are still on tilt and would have been happy with just having him fold. TT vs QJ, you are a favorite. If he's calling with QJ it also probably means he's calling with 88 and 99 which means you are going to get into some spots where you crush him in the future. These are all really good things. You got to feel good about being at a table where you've folded a ton and villian still calls off with QJ, it means he's not paying attention and made a bad call, this is good for you in the future.
It's good that you are thinking about things away from the table, that you are part of TPE and that you do want to imrpove. You don't sound like someone that thinks they know it all and the only reason they are losing is because your opponents are lucky.
It's also cool that your wife likes to play. Mine does as well, she's had some success, but does not take it seriously and that works for her. She'll win our home game from time to time or go to one of the tougher 50 person home games we attend and win after a long downtime of not playing. It keeps her playing which I like to see.
I look forward to hearing about your progress. Good luck man!
February 15, 2013
Need stack sizes on future examples. I am going to go through this one hand before bed and just do a mock example.
Blinds 200/400 10 10 hand. 9h 6h 3x Xh Xh. 1500 UTG hero. Villains UTG+1 and BB call.
Those are just my notes. This tournament alternates between a $50R and a $80 freezeout. It’s important to note because the $50R has 4 rebuy levels. The last being this one. However, I know this was the $80.
Starting stack: 15k
Levels:
25/50
50/100
100/200
100/200/50
150/300/50
200/400/100
I am going to just guess stack sizes are close to 15k. This is probably not right but let’s just make them 15k effective. This isn’t the mental side of things but it’s understanding your opponents.
200/400/100 9-handed
1500 per orbit
M=10
I raise to 900. Villain #1 calls UTG1 and Villain #2 calls BB. Pot 3800.
You raised to 1500. Pot 5500.
Flop: 9h 6h 3x
I c-bet 1350. They call. Pot 7850.
You c-bet 4000. They call. Pot 17500.
Turn Xh. This is a great card for you. If I have a nut draw and I called pre. When you bet 3/4 pot it’s going in…these are weak hands calling you. Perfect spot to barrel. If you are going to barrel what’s the plan? Gotta go to bed. I’ll try to continue this Sunday. Tomorrow is crazy for me!
February 15, 2013
Ok so where was I…
I think you need to adjust your style in this particular game. You should be switching gears. Your bet sizing should be smaller. You should be more careful. The 10 10 hand…I don't like your plan. Dictate the play of the table. That doesn't mean raise every hand, but you shouldn't fold for two straight hours regardless of cards. A good way to practice this is pick a weak player…3-bet on your button without looking at your cards. Play it like you have aces. C-bet, but never 3/4 unless you want to get bluff raised or floated…bet a normal amount…win with a two barrel or finally check your hand after your two barrel is called. Note: You need to make it look like you have looked. Hopefully we get on the same table this week and I can analyze your play more.
February 15, 2013
I’m analyzing everyone’s game at the table. When I play live I am building a HUD database in my head. I’m watching what cards players show up with. Kyle, for example, have an early position limp-shove range so far of AA-JJ, AK, KJ suited. Andrew calls raises and leads most flops. If you have a hand, it’s better to trap Don than try to bet for value. Don’t try to bluf Taft, he is going to call you down. I’m trying to keep track of c-betting frequencies, 3-betting, what hands show up in what spots, sizing, etc. Analyzing other people’s play is one of the best ways to improve your game.
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