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All, i often find myself deep in an MTT with a big stack having played really well for about 5 hrs and then for no apparent reason have a brain meltdown and make an absolutley ridiculous play to either bust or damage my stack from top ten in chips back down to average.
It happened again this weekend — theres 36 left in a 5$ rebuy on stars with 5.7k up top. I have just doubled up to 350k when the average is 200k and decide for no apparent reason to tangle with the big stack and bluff off more than 200k in chips.
After i did this, i am like “what the **** am i doing r u an idiot?” — its happened a few times now, are there any tips to help me stop doing this? I often find i do this type of thing late in mtts.
June 22, 2010
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When playing against other stacks that can hurt me, I tighten up my range and do not try anything crazy. Most big stacks late in the game areod players and I assume they won't want to tangle with me unless they have something. Sounds like you get the over confidence bug, I had problems with that in the past. It seems like every play you make is right and you want to keep riding it out and then you get coolered. When you are running good just keep in mind it is going to end soon. However, the amount of chips it ends with is up to you a few or many.
"Your either in Sheen's Korner or your with the trolls."
Praetor – Ye i think u have hit the nail on the head there with the over confidence comment. I def start to feel a bit invincible and have a habit of spazzing out. I keep saying thats never going to happen again and then fck i do it again.
Im maybe going to try and get in the habit of always taking the same amount of time for every decision [even if the decision is obvious] so when im in that 'im about to spaz out' frame of mind, i might rein myself back in and make the correct decision.
mate i'm sure every single player has had the same problem before – it happens to even the best of them
i like your plan to take the same amount of time for every single decision no matter how trivial
maybe like every orbit, or every big hand that happens, or every time someone new comes or someone leaves the table, just say out loud to yourself 'how will what just happened change anything in this tourney?'
this again might seem simple but it will remind you of those things like “dont tangle with the only stack that can bust me” or “dont bluff the calling station 2 to my left” etc etc
also having a clear mind and lots of food and H2O keeps the focus up high which is obv very important deep in tourneys when picking spots correctly i find
Thx for the advice hapetimes, some good points which i will take on board.
June 1, 2012
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I don't know if this applies to you as well but I had the same issue so I posted the last hand where I'd done this (89s – it's in the mtt strategy forum) and yeah similar circumstances it was deep I had a tonne of chips etc. I think this also applies to the helping control aggression thread.
Basically after really analysing the hand and the play I realised that there are a specific set of circumstances which lead me to do this.
1 – I have a lot of chips (either cl or 2nd at the table)
2 – I perceive the other big stack to be a weak player (unlike me at this point in the tourney – I'm going to crush it and head to vegas)
3- I normally have air or a horribly marginal hand (see 89 hand)
4 – They normally show a little stregnth early on and then back off – at which point I decide their hand is weak and I can push them off it
I realised that the reason I get to this point is that most of my perceptions are correct – apart from the one in bold 🙁
The hands are normally extremelly marginal.
But they're the type of player that just never lets go – and not because their astute, thinking and pot controlling – more because they're a bit station like and have a tonne of chips! I'm never going to get these guys to fold so I now look for the warning signs when I get into a hand and am thinking of bluffing – do I think the player's weak, do they have lots of chips, have they shown stregnth followed by weakness – and I generally try and check/fold it down.
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