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rules for showing hands in All-in pot at live tourney
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July 29, 2014 - 7:30 pm
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There seems to be a rule that both hands have to be shown if it is all-in pot during live tourney. 

Will I get penalized for throw my hand into the muck if I put the other guy all in on the river and get called?

knowing I have no chance of winning, I'd rather not to show my hand for information purpose, but is it against tournament rules? Thanks!

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yep, it is so that you can protect against collusion.

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you might not ALWAYS get penalized, but you are always at RISK of getting penalized.  If that makes sense.

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not saying this applies specifically to OP, but i have found that when people dont want to turn their cards over, it is to do with a lack of confidence in their own play, i.e people will laugh at them if they get caught turning up a bluff or some other hand. 

 

my advice would just be to own your play. if you get caught in a bluff, who cares? especially if you are out of the tournament. 

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If a player is all in and called in a tournament, both hands are to be shown. That is the commonly accepted rule in every casino I've played it. It might be the only rule all casino's, and most players, seem to agree on. 

To answer the question though, imo, yes you should recieve a penalty for it. You would have to bury the cards pretty deep in the muck for them to be unretrievable, which requires a fair amount of force unless you are in seats 1/9. This displays an intent to subvert a commonly accepted rule of the game, and therefore a penalty should be issued. 

Everyone gets super protective of “hand information”, but you need to realize that it gives away a lot less than you think. If you are bluffing, it makes no difference if you did it with a busted draw or 4 high. Most oppenents are purely going to see you bluffed and got caught. 

As mentioned above though, when you get caught, own up to it. Showing that you are able to bluff in spots like this will improve your ROI.

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