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January 22, 2016
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I have fallen into a bad pattern not playing the LAG role in live tournaments. I start off in an aggressive manner playing medium pairs as well as premium and non premium hands in early levels because the blinds are small and i am not risking that many chips in the early stages . When i win pots i feel the need to hold on to chips i am entitled to, but in reality i am not entitled to anything . This causes me to play tight during the mid to late levels not and not getting involved with too many pots because i dont want to give up my profits. In the end i end up being short stacked getting eaten up by the blinds and ante in the late stages of the tournament . I am sure there are others out there that can relate. Should i try playing LAG throughout the entire tournament even though i am taking big risks in doing so? I have heard that LAG players earn the most money and usually take down tournaments even though they run the risk of busting out early as well
May 30, 2012
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I think you coming at this the wrong way. There’s no right or wrong choice on how to play at tourney. You try to make the best decisions you can at each moment, building a stack and hoping to make the FT and win. As Andrew B would say, you make smart +EV decisions. A “fold” is a smart decision at times. When you win pots, you should ALWAYS feel the need to hold on to them till the very end. Nothing should cause you to play tight. You have to play “YOUR” style. If that’s LAG ok, if that’s TAG ok. You have to figure that out and be comfy with your own play throughout the entire tourney.
I would warn you to not be too super LAGGY and spew early in tourneys just because the blinds are so small and you can afford it. Ex. 50-100 bb You start with 20k. You lose two hands and drop 3,600 chips because you are chasing a draw. You win one hand and collect the BB’s (150). 30 minutes go by and your down to 12,320 chips. Then you get AA v KK and get a full double. Now your up to 24k, when you could have been up to 35k or 40k Because you were laggy/spewy.
It’s about making smart decisions.
April 30, 2015
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Like P-aire says, there is not one mode to play in tournaments. In fact, if you are LAG or TAG and keep playing that way all the time, you could be exploited. I think if your style is LAG, you should continue to play LAG majority of the time, but every move you make should tell a story that makes sense. You can’t be a TAG, check on all 3 streets and expect opponents to give you credit for a big hand.
May 30, 2012
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Well said by Nav. Most great players whether LAG, TAG or wacky …… always have “a plan”. Always have a plan and make sure your story seems like a GOOD one. Otherwise, good players are going to exploit you at times. You don’t have to be the table Captain or be the player who’s playing most pots just to build a stack. If your bored and dying to play a hand, you may want to rethink your strategy.
*remember, position position position and try not to open LIMP a pot. To me, those are mistakes amateur/rec players make WAY TOO much in small daily tourneys or lower buyins. As you get a better understanding of the game, you can start to exploit those types of situations.
January 22, 2016
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You picked the wrong time to lecture me I just got blown out in a $1 $2 cash game. I started with $140 got it up to $400 made back the $100 i blew on a shitty turbo tournament and saw a profit of $160 but the profit dwindled down to $70 But no i just had to keep playing and ended up making a big mistake shoving A Q suit post flop (pair Q ) allowing two callers who had me covered to improve their hand calling my shove One had pocket J’s hit a J on the turn and to add insult to injury the other asshole had deuce quads. I enjoy the game of NL hold em but unlike Andrew Brokos and the rest of you that seem to blow off any ass whipping you get at the table as “well thats part of the breaks” , i don’t like losing especially when i have big rent to pay car payments etc etc. while the rest of you are probably sitting pretty with half a mill in the bank or more and can afford to blow big bucks left and right without letting it get to you. To me blowing a few hundred is big money considering my expenses. With that said i might have to cancel my membership . When you lose you really dont feel like watching guys like Big Dawg pocket aces and company discuss hand history knowing they got megabucks and make a comfortable living doing so. Co partners of a training site are always going to stick together and gang up on someone such as myself when they don’t agree or see eye to eye but sorry guys i am the type that tells it like it is . So far i have yet to find a sympathetic soul who goes through the same losing crap i go through. The phrase misery loves company does have its benefits at times. I guess the follow up reply will be “Maybe this game is not for you ” That certainly does not warm the heart one bit
May 30, 2012
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Who’s lecturing you? I’m not even going to comment on your “rant” I’ll let others figure that out.
April 30, 2015
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Even I didn’t want to reply to the rant, but hey! we need some entertainment in the forums as well!! 
As for me, I am no partner to any of the TPE pros. I have never met *any* TPE member anywhere. So, I think I have the “right” to comment here 
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So, you shoved AQ post flop on a Q high board. The guy with JJ was behind and caught up, but the guy with 22 was WAAY AHEAD and was loving your shove.. So, you want to win from behind all the time?? You can do that only if you are the mob and show a gun to the face to rake up the pot.
Worrying about rent?? Play the stakes that allow you to take bad beats with your bankroll. “Big Dawg pocket aces and company” and Andrew Brokos ALWAYS and ALWAYS and ALWAYS tell you not to go beyond what your bankroll can afford. Let’s say you are playing $1-$2, and going in there with 100BB (which is tooooo less in my opinion…). Your bankroll needs to be at least 100x your buyin level, that is, $20000. If your poker bankroll is 20k, which is ideally 10% of your *real* bankroll, you should be well covered for rent and heck, even a mortgage!! If not, you are inviting the bitch home, whose name is “variance”. She’s a bitch and she will poke you where you’ll feel the pain.
Let me follow up with a modified version of your expected reply – Maybe this STAKE is not for you!!
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December 6, 2012
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Generally good advice, navin, but the 100x the buy-in rule is more applicable to MTTs (with relatively small fields – if they are in the thousands of runners, 200x or even 300x could be more appropriate) than cash. I think for a non-pro playing small stakes NLHE, 2000 BBs (20 max buy ins) is an aggressive but reasonable standard. Of course, bankroll is really only relevant if you’re a winning player. The point of a bankroll is to provide insurance against going broke in the short term, while your long term edge works its magic. If you are not a winning player, then you will eventually go broke no matter what your bankroll looks like. Even so, if your goal is to play your best and not get too upset over bad beats etc, then playing stakes where you can comfortably afford to lose is still important.
January 22, 2016
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20k? Im lucky if i have 6k to my name . Where do you come up with these figures? Obviously you must be living off the fat of the land. What bugged me more than anything was this dude staring at me after i busted like i just lost 50k . I just looked back at him and said i only lost $120 so whats the big deal ? I guess the load of $5 chips i won earlier looked like a mucho $$ to him. Another point i forgot to bring up was the fact that rule is once your up a few bucks never leave the table always play till you bust and its not proper etiquette according to Andrew to quit while your ahead. Well you know what i dont give a rats ass how i am perceived at the table. Next time i am up $200 i walk away and tip the dealer $5 How do you like dem apples?
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December 6, 2012
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legend491 said
always play till you bust and its not proper etiquette according to Andrew to quit while your ahead.
What? When did I say that?
May 30, 2012
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Hmmmmmm, Him cra cra. 
At this point I have to think he’s trolling this site or it’s Ashton from “Punked”
C’mon man !!! What is going on 
January 22, 2016
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Andrew did not say play till you bust . Let me clarify. He did mention in past podcast when he won a big tournament that it might not be proper etiquitte to walk away from a cash table when you are ahead or maybe he read an email from a listener concerning that situation. If you listen to the podcast there was a mention regarding that very issue Sorry if i was misquoted
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December 6, 2012
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There are people who will get upset if you quit immediately after winning a big pot from them, and if you’re approaching the game as a professional, then being up or down shouldn’t affect your decision to stay in the game. All of that said, I don’t think you owe it to anyone to play any longer than you feel like, and you don’t have to justify your quitting to anyone. I tend to play against the same players on a regular basis, and I want them to want to keep playing with me, so I have to take these things into consideration, but that doesn’t mean that you have to.
January 22, 2016
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Walking away from a table right after you take a big pot from someone is pretty downright cruel. I would never do something like that because i sure as hell would be offended if someone did that to me. I was thinking more along the lines of playing for awhile then take off or make believe i have business to take care of. Attempt a move like that in an underground game can sometimes be deadly but then again i dont spend my cash where it’s not welcome . Casino is probably the safest bet
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