yes, I dont think overlimping here is the optimal play pre, especially when you are planning to call a raise OOP.
when you are gonna call a raise why dont YOU make the initial raise? it makes the hand a ton easier to play
hands like this played like this lead to situations like this 😉
June 19, 2012
Agree with the above posts in general. But I don’t mind overlimping at such a passive table as you have described. That being said you should be folding to this raise preflop IMO. You’re just not getting the implied odds you need, and you’re going to be OOP for the rest of the hand. As a general rule of thumb I would want the effective stack to be atleast 52K for me to call here (20 x the 2.6K you have to call). Although you can probably get away with slightly smaller stacks if you have a specific read on your opponent, or if you’re planning on throwing some bluff raises in there postflop.
As played pre, there’s a play I like to make in this spot. There’s 8500 in the pot, and he has ~24K behind. I would lead out weak into him for about 2K hoping to induce a raise, and then just show him the pile. This allows you to get more money in the pot, and gives you the last action (which is always nice when you only have 7-high). Lots of live players will even raise-fold an ace in his spot. And if he just flat calls your lead then that’s OK too, you get a cheap look at the turn and can go from there.
October 6, 2010
by overlimping these types of hands i think you never get the implied odds you hope for, because if you overlimp then get crazy when you smash the flop people are always wary because your hand is kinda face up.
so i would just iso the limper, it gives you control of the hand, and it now gives you two ways to win the pot, smash the flop, or pick up dead money due to the initiative you now have
May 30, 2012
I would never limp here. If I'm coming in the pot, I'm opening it up with a raise here to 2400 at least, depending on others still to act. I don't think he 3bets you, so he flats. With that flop, I'm always cbetting……….. and go from there. If he does 3bet me pre, I'm folding. I might play the hand, but not trying to get crazy with that hand OOP.
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