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September 15, 2015
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WPN, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold’em Cash, 6 Players
SB: $132.79 (132.8 bb) <Villain is playing 26/24 over 60 hands with a 19% 3bet.
BB: $114.30 (114.3 bb)
UTG: $119.78 (119.8 bb)
MP: $141.50 (141.5 bb)
CO: $115.87 (115.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $146.72 (146.7 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6s 7s
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero calls $2, SB raises to $9, 2 folds, Hero calls $7
I’m just looking to see a cheap flop IP here so I flat on the BTN planning to call a standard size 3b from the blinds, who both appear to be regs. Villain in SB 3bets to $9 and I call, given that he seems to be 3betting a wide range.
Flop: ($21) 4d 5h 6h (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10
SB checks to me and I bet $10 into $21. I get a fold here quite often from 3-bettors that shut down after missing the flop, but villain calls. I don’t feel his range has narrowed much at this point. I plan to find out on the turn if he is floating or has a real hand.
Turn: ($41) 4c (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB raises to $40, Hero calls $24
On the turn I bet $16, which is perhaps too small. It is 39% of pot so not way small but in retrospect it may look a little weak. Villain C/R to $40. Maybe he doesn’t C/R if my turn bet is larger. I’ve getting 4-1 on a $24 call here and I figure to have 10 outs if he has an overpair. I think I have the best hand here sometimes (30% maybe?) as he’s trying to push me off after my smallish bet with a broadway hand. I considered shoving but I didn’t feel I would get a fold when he’s calling off his last $74 to win $195. It feels like I’m behind but I have the odds to draw so I call the $24.
River: ($121) Ts (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
I missed my draw and villain checked to me. If I stick in my remaining ~$88 he’s never calling with worse. I recognize that a part of his range is Ace high right here and I could get a fold though. Although it may be my only chance to win the hand I decided to give up and checked.
According to flopzilla I had somewhere close to 50% equity on the river. It’s a close spot. His river check felt like a check/call.
I’m guessing the recommended play here is going to be a turn shove. As played, the river check feels fine as it’s a close spot.
I called the 3bet preflop on the button and got a flop I liked, but still ended up in a pretty uncomfortable spot. How do I improve my play in these spots?
I’ve been off TPE for a while, studying elsewhere and playing more cash than MTTs. It’s good to be back!
February 20, 2015
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Welcome back.
I don’t play a lot of cash but understand bets are larger than in tournaments, as a rule of thumb. I would have bet $15 on flop. As played, I would have checked behind on turn. I don’t understand what the bet does, unless SB floats a lot. As played, I would call the c/r. The river I check behind because I infer strength from the c/r. I don’t think V plays 87 this way, plus you block 7x. This doesn’t look like a flush draw.
Ranging from the beginning, I see a lot of AK/AQ in V’s range—why c/c 99+ on the flop after all? But the c/r on the turn could be more 99+ and less overcards. You don’t have a lot of 4s in your range, so the turn doesn’t change anything for V.
But it’s 50c/$1 so who knows?
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December 6, 2012
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Make it or $6 or $7 pre. You’ve got to get out of this mindset of just calling and hoping to make hands.
I like the flop bet, but your thought process needs work. You say “I get a fold here quite often”, but then when Villain doesn’t fold, you conclude, “I don’t feel his range has narrowed much.” How can both of those things be true?
Turn bet is fine. What’s wrong with looking weak? You’re not going to make better hands fold anyway, and you’re not folding to a raise, so if V decides to raise with worse, isn’t that good for you?
I don’t understand why you’re even thinking about betting river. How does it help you to make Ace high fold?
September 15, 2015
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I said I didn’t feel his range was narrowed much because I think he would float there quite a bit. I see your point though. There are some hands in his pf 3b range that are folding to the flop bet, narrowing his range and I’ve got to get some handle on what that looks like.
We should be considering all of our options, should we not? I considered betting river because I thought there might be some overpairs that would shrink up and fold after I called the check raise. That’s probably only 88,99 though. Not a large enough part of his range to justify betting.
As played, I checked back and he took it down with KK.
December 30, 2015
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Turn doesn’t often change anything (some A4s might 3-bet preflop and float once perhaps, but not too many) and you still have top-pair and good draw. I like the turn bet. I don’t think it needs to be bigger because I don’t think a bigger bet achieves anything different. Big combo draws and over-pairs aren’t folding and it allows some weaker hands, like A3, to make a mistake by paying to continue.
I’m checking the river 100% here. We have good showdown value and no value-target (what worse hands call and what better hands fold?….None to both I think.)
I was surprised to hear V had KK. I would expect most over-pairs, including AA, to c-bet such a wet flop. V played this very passive and got very lucky IMO. Personally I would have held on to the betting lead with pretty much 100% of my range, including AQ+, 77+, and all better, including sets and straights.
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