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This is a hand from a SnG I was playing with another TPE member Moizt (Daaazy). Think it's all pretty standard but Moizt thinks I should fold, just wanted to run it past you guys.
Cassava Poker $1000 + $20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 7 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
Daaazy (MP): t814 4.07 BBs
HERODES3 (CO): t1077 5.38 BBs
dv_87_11 (BTN): t1937 9.69 BBs
nonocarrera (SB): t1891 9.46 BBs
Hero (BB): t1476 7.38 BBs
KilaBom (UTG): t3810 19.05 BBs
fr33r1d3r (UTG+1): t2495 12.47 BBs
Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with 3
8
2 folds, Daaazy calls t200, 1 fold, dv_87_11 calls t200, nonocarrera calls t100, Hero checks
Flop: (t800) 6 2 J (4 players)
nonocarrera checks, Hero checks, Daaazy checks, dv_87_11 checks
Turn: (t800) 5 (4 players)
nonocarrera checks, Hero checks, Daaazy bets t614, dv_87_11 folds, nonocarrera folds, Hero calls t614
River: (t2028) 4
(2 players)
Final Pot: t2028
Daaazy shows 7 Q
Hero shows 3 8
Hero wins t2028
October 6, 2010
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I'm confused for a couple reasons. 1) There is no way this is a 1k SNG. 2) Are those chip counts correct? 3) Is is this a serious question? If so you fold this 100% of the time on the turn. But I guess the real question is how do you let yourself get down to less than 8 BB's and Daaazy less than 4 BB's and limps in with Q7o?! Come on guys, surely TPE has taught you to play better than this! I think I speak for everyone who reads this post. Not being rude, just honest.
I mean I can't understand how it can be a bad call when I won. Plus his jam looked really bluffy, I may have folded to a smaller bet.
I think we both played this hand perfectly. Q7o has amazing equity but I choose to limp with 4 big blinds so I can still get away on the flop. I get a free flop, and I miss. I check because I want to give my opponants some rope to hang themselves (my strategy 
). I think queen high is way ahead of their bluffing range. When nobody bets, I decide to take action and value shove. However, it appears that Runningouts has a soul read on me, since he knows that i know that he knows that i know that he knows that i know that he knows that i know that he knows that i know that he knows that if a 4 hits, it's bye bye Moizt. He does make the good call, and like he predicted, the 4 hit, and I was knocked out.
Please consider the high level thinking in this hand… It may look awful, but to true sit n go grinders, this hand seems really well played.
October 6, 2010
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Also I considered Moizt to be among the better players at the table and so to give myself the best chance of winning I decided to take the flip to eliminate him, especially as it was for a small part of my stack. The only thing I can see now that maybe was a mistake is that I didn't minraise preflop to iso him.
I think that the mistake that alot of regs make in this spot is they focus on the negatives, they say to themselves “I only have four outs, I should fold”. But what they fail to realise is that they only have to hit ONE of those four. running0uts shows a sophisticated understanding of this concept in this hand by weighing up the information available to make a great read on what the river card's most likely range is.
7.x bb and 4.x bb contemplating iso minraise.. this is a hoax right!
..it was only a small part of my stack.. hilarious!
u were priced in stackwise, so nice call at the turn 
Of course this is for real. I mean this might not be standard play in MTTs but in high stakes STTs there are a lot of strange dynamics. Maybe I should have posted this it the 'ask the pros' section.
Moizt said:
I think we both played this hand perfectly. Q7o has amazing equity but I choose to limp with 4 big blinds so I can still get away on the flop. I get a free flop, and I miss. I check because I want to give my opponants some rope to hang themselves (my strategy
Please consider the high level thinking in this hand… It may look awful, but to true sit n go grinders, this hand seems really well played.
LOL at please consider the high level thinking in this hand… I've played thousands of SNG's and this is awful. In fact, your logic is horrible. “Q7o having amazing equity to limp with 4 bb's so I can get away on the flop.” Good one. If you guys aren't going to take this site seriously then please refrain from posting stupid hands like this. Seriously.
Seems that there is some confusion about odds and outs, which is understandable as it is complex maths. When I am thinking about making the call I first think what able are the two possible outcomes: 1) I hit my straight with a 4; 2) I miss the straight. So I have 1/2 chance of hitting the hand. But here is a step a lot of people miss, there are 4 4s! So my chance of hitting isn't just 1/2, in fact it is 4 x 1/2 = 2. Now when you have odds of 2 it's pretty good and you can make a call with small pot odds. Add to that two more factors and you can see that this is an instacall. 1) I was running really good and felt this one was going to hit, and 2) I don't necessarily have to even hit the river to win. When you add this to my odds you get about 2.6, pretty good right?
Hope I have cleared up some of the confusion on the maths there.
omg your guys thinking is ALL FLAWED!
like emufart said – we have four outs but we only have to hit ONE of those four outs
last time i checked, 1/4 was 25% no??
yep, sure is..
now theres 1414 in the pot and it costs us 614 to call
thats giving us like 2.3:1 pot odds which equates to around 30%!!!! making this a double fist pump super snap hi five the monitor call imo
add to this the 'frozen' odds (this is an extremely young poker term that no-one has ever heard yet) meaning that when you call all in, the pot cannot grow, and will remain 'frozen' thereby making it IMPOSSIBLE for us to lose any more money in the long run
just saying
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August 3, 2011
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haha can someone clarify is this post is real or not?
No offence but I don't want to waste my time explaining this hand if it is a joke.
sorry danny13 – i have no idea but i honestly think its a joke so i just played along with it when i got home last night
October 6, 2010
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if you want to post something like this, i think it should be in the BBV thread. trolling everyone will make it less likely we get responses on legitimate hands imo
What about this spot guys?
I think I played it really well preflop, and running outs played it pretty perfectly too.
Cassava Poker $1000 + $20 No Limit Hold’em Tournament – t10/t20 Blinds – 8 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
Joggingouts (BTN): t1380 69 BBs
runningouts (SB): t1105 55.25 BBs
El_Turko1972 (BB): t1500 75 BBs
Nonamer69(UTG): t1500 75 BBs
Nikita136 (UTG+1): t1500 75 BBs
8igdog (MP1): t3330 166.50 BBs
KidCambridge (MP2): t2120 106 BBs
Hero (CO): t1065 53.25 BBs
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is CO with Q 4
1 fold, Nikita136 calls t20, 1 fold, tabla1984 calls t20, Hero raises to t40, 1 fold, runningouts raises to t80, 1 fold, Nikita136 calls t60, tabla1984 calls t60, Hero raises to t120, runningouts raises to t160, Nikita136 calls t80, 1 fold, Hero raises to t200, runningouts raises to t240, Nikita136 calls t80, Hero raises to t280, runningouts raises to t320, 1 fold, Hero raises to t360, runningouts raises to t400, Hero calls t40
Flop: (t1140) 7 4 K (2 players)
runningouts checks, Hero bets t20, runningouts calls t20
Turn: (t1180) A (2 players)
runningouts checks, Hero bets t20, runningouts calls t20
River: (t1220) 2 (2 players)
runningouts checks, Hero checks
Final Pot: t1220
runningouts shows K K
Hero shows Q 4
Hero wins t1220
Competitive friends. We both play a solid game as you can see, so we see who can outlast the other for fun while taking shots.
October 6, 2010
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HU with runningouts (TPE member)
> Cassava Poker $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em – 3 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
Hero (BTN): BB = Infinity, $16.99
ALOBOS1 (SB): BB = Infinity, $7.00
runningouts (BB): BB = Infinity, $37.48
Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with 6 9
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, runningouts calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.80) 4 3 5 (2 players)
runningouts checks, Hero bets $16.59, runningouts calls $16.59
Turn: ($33.98) 5 (2 players)
River: ($33.98) 9 (2 players)
Showdown:
Hero has 6
9
runningouts has 6
9
runningouts wins pot: ($33.98)
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