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kek442 and I are having a debate. All you have to do is vote.
Online tournament players in general know real poker.
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October 6, 2010
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of course a skilled tournament poker player knows “real poker” – it is just a different skill to cash games.
it is like saying a 7 card stud player doesnt know “real poker” if they are horrible at holdem cash games.
cash game poker is all about turn and river play, and tournament poker is all about exploiting dynamics. just different skill sets, but i dont think they are necessarily better or worse than each other
I answered the question at face value. “In general” meaning all players playing tournament poker.
If the question is about skilled tounament players vs skilled cash game players then that's a different question altogether.
October 6, 2010
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if you are talking about all players, as an average, then i would contend that noone knows “real poker”, as the proportion of horrible players is obviously a lot higher
Agree
I think you need to be a bit more specific with the question tilted.
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April 6, 2010
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voting YES pending more detail on the question beign asked.
You’ll have to do without more details until Sunday. Sorry but since Keith and I have a wager I won’t be changing the question. Go ahead and vote on which ever you like and we can discuss in depth after Sunday.
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April 6, 2010
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sticking with yes then.
Put 400 big blinds in front of a typical online tournament player and watch him raise/3bet/5bet all in with AK on a K62r flop.
This is why you should play MORE pots pre-ante, not less. Most online tourney players are absolutely clueless with regard to relative hand strength and 150-plus-bb stackoff ranges.
It's also why the WSOP Main Event is said to be such great value: clueless players extremely deepstacked for hours upon hours upon hours.
question is too broad imo. what exactly is “real” poker? i'd say in general the ratio of good players to bad players online is greater compared to live.
JLUDEOBV said:
question is too broad imo. what exactly is “real” poker? i'd say in general the ratio of good players to bad players online is greater compared to live.
Yeah I think it's a stupid question because it's so broad, but I was told I'm required to answer it ITT.
Maybe it should be better defined as “tourney players in general” and not just online.
Real poker I guess is supposed to mean multi-street, deepstacked, etc…
October 6, 2010
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yeah i think thats what OP is getting at, but i would contend that preflop betting wars, resteal dynamics and other such skills are as complex as multistreet, deepstacked play in cash games.it is just a very different skill set.
i think that the tournament skill set is slightly more narrow than the cash game skill set, but i still believe it is “real poker”
In general I would say NO… they do not know poker.
July 3, 2010
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No.
Most good MTT'ers can play 40 BB and under (I'd even consider saying 30 BB here) but are horrific with deep stacks.
Only the very good high stakes regs (and even some of them are terrible deep) can continue to be good as stacks get deeper.
in general i'd say NO
but like everyone else i have 'questions' about the actual 'question' lol
yea this question is kind of broad. As a whole? Or just the good online players? Obv the good online players its an easy yes, as online pros have actually owned the live major tournaments over the last 10 years for a reason. this is a no brainer. We play thousands more hands, we are much more technical, and don't have obvious tells as clues. We play systamatically, aggressively, and absolutely, positively bitch slap the live player. Inexperienced online players, obviously not.
In general…. No for sure…. refer to rivermen123's reasoning, pretty much what i was going to say…
rivermen123 said:
Put 400 big blinds in front of a typical online tournament player and watch him raise/3bet/5bet all in with AK on a K62r flop.
This is why you should play MORE pots pre-ante, not less. Most online tourney players are absolutely clueless with regard to relative hand strength and 150-plus-bb stackoff ranges.
It’s also why the WSOP Main Event is said to be such great value: clueless players extremely deepstacked for hours upon hours upon hours.
100% agreed with you here. But the top 1-2% IMO of online players KNOW poker. The beautiful thing for winning online poker players is the novice player can join up right at home. He can deposit his money, join a tourney, and then do exactly what u just said, and give me all his chips. 
June 22, 2010
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I would have to say no. A lot of players are specialist in either tournament or cash. A very small percent is goodt at both. As mentioned above different dynamics between the two.
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