busted in a spot to double in what felt like a good spot to go with my hand vs opponents range. i had like 5.5bb and a reg minraised from hj like 8 handed or 9 handed with 12bb and I shoved my KTs in the sb knowing full well I was getting a call. i was in a 4r that was getting deep so i focused until it was over to post this. I won though! 1st in the 4r for 170. feelsgood.jpg anyway, villain had i believe 12bb in this deep stack turbo $25 game. intertops payouts are pretty flat for spots except at the way bottom because they payout a higher % than normal. I think it's because their playerpool is small since they separated from lock. I'm not 100% on reasons behind though. But all stacks behind except the blinds had him covered. He minraised. I figured he would probably open shove a lot of his range, raise/call like AA one time (not sure. the table was decent with a couple soft spots and reg-leaks so i think he'd probably shove most of the top of the range to protect the other shoves at that stack size. so i thought his plan is r/c against me and likely r/f against the other stacks. i'm not looking to mincash for $35 here (ya..and 12th paid 30 lol) and if I fold and have 5bb I'm still not really increasing my chances to win or run further. I feel if I get it in against his r/c range to me (which is a r/f to the bigger stacks right?) I'm not in bad shape and probably have live cards as I expect a lot of the r/f range to be Ax and then I flip to all pairs that I can think would maybe r/c against the bigger stacks sometimes but we honestly don't know a ton here and it was more of a “we likely have not-horrible equity against all of his hands that he opens because he never folds to me and when we win say 40% of the time, we then have what I think is more than doubling our chances of winning the tournament, albeit still low.” Like, you know how chips lost are worth more than chips gained. I know that. But when youre that shallow, I think there might be an inflection point? I'm not exactly sure how to check that math. Like icm might not be accurate if I were to take my stacks value when i fold and have 5bb, then take it when I more than double. I feel like having 12bb is probably double what having 5bb does with flatter payouts save for the top few at a final table. But I think icm would still then be inaccurate to a degree because when i do double up, people may have been decent for what i'm used to playing with, but everyone still seems to call too tight, or doesn't adjust to my preflop shoving fast enough. the issue is quantifying it and then assessing it versus the actual variance involved in a spot like that. i can't remember, but i'm pretty sure i took a few seconds to consider everything that i just mentioned. it wasn't as indepth but you know what i mean! also just checked and giving him a bunch of Ax and still 6 monster combos that crush me (AA) and then just like idk 99, my equity is still 43%. There's say 11bb with me + him + 1bb + 1bb (ante) so the pots 7.5/5 which is 1.5:1 which is 40% lol. ya i think even excluding my secondary thoughts on the value of more than doubling up there it's still +cEV and likely not -$ev since payouts are flat and I have a short stack.