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I'm using tournament shark for my games and it's nice and simple – gives you a rank af the other players and their exit points in their past tournamets. I heard about tourament indicator. It's a bit more expensive. Does anyone here use it? Do you have any other suggetions? I don't want to use poker tracker or holdem maneger, beacuse they're heavy and i don't think it's really usefull for tournamets
I wouldnt use any stat tracker other then holdem manager or tracker .. Alot of the poker sites will ban you if they catch you using software that uses player information from a datatbase you did not collect yourself.
I know stars allows both these programs, just be sure to check your sites terms and conditions before using any software.
As for which one is better…I've never tried Shark but trialed Indicator a while back and found it to be very basic…I had no use for it.
Most software tools will come wih a free trial and I would recommend you always take advantage of these to see if the program adds value to your game.
From what I have seen (my friend uses Tournament Indicator) its big thing is that it calculates your “m” for you. Everything else is pretty basic and it now has a table overlay.
October 6, 2010
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holdem manager will do that for you too
I have used Tournament Indicator for a while. It does M and BB ratios. It also tracks player types as HM and PT do. I have gotten used to TI and find it useful, but not a breakthrough.*
It also shows how likely your hand is to win. As a too-loose player, this helps me fold more and stay out of trouble. It flashes when I hit the nuts, which is cheery, even if I'm not in the hand.
I probably should use the HM HUD instead, but my computer sometimes has out-of-memory crashes, so running a big database program during the game can be risky.
*If it WERE a breakthrough stat product with serious artificial intelligence, Pokerstars would ban it.
I have both Tournament Indicator and Tournament Shark.
Both are good. Watch some vids on You tube on Tournament indicator.. Definatley worth the 100 bucks…
T Shark gives u instantly how good players are witch is very helpful.
Both of these are legal the only bigtime Software that i know is banned from Tilt and Stars is Poker Edge 5 so i stayed away from that one.
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I started a Pro Poker Labs (tourney shark) vs Sharkscope Hud thread on Part Time Poker, everyone said they are worthless and just stick with HEM. So I tried the trial version of each for a week. Didn't like the sharkscope, as it was putting false values on villains and cluttered up my table. The Pro Poker Labs on the other hand I feel is super beneficial and has clean dropout stats on all players. I love it and am buying.
My only issue with it is I don't fullly understand the how they get their stat values. Are the stars just another way of expressing same rating as the Card?
I know their system is designed to account for volume and consistency, not overweighing one or two big scores. This seems good.
But then there are certain players that have like 1% ROI, over massive volume, and end up with nearly the highest rating. Seems like a nit we probably don't need to give “top shark rating”.
Regardless, the software kicks ass if for nothing else having instant ABI, ROI, volume, and finish position on nearly every single villain we sit with.
As a sidenote the “poker calculator” tool they also offer is a do not download imo.
I use tournament indicator and it is very simple and basic to use. I like it, and feel that it does what its supposed to, however, I would like to use a program that keeps track of all hands played against a villian. Ive heard holdem manager was the way to go but I downloaded the free trial and it was just to hard for me to understand. Never even got the hud up and never even got to use it, i just gave up. Any advice guys?
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March 17, 2010
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I think HEM is really the best way to track hands vs a villain. Did you check the video tutorials on their site?
Tournament shark does have a HUD but i could not get it to work.
RonFezBuddy said:
I think HEM is really the best way to track hands vs a villain. Did you check the video tutorials on their site?
Tournament shark does have a HUD but i could not get it to work.
I've logged lots of hours with Tournament Shark now, and have it running smoothly on FTP and PS now. Its totally worth the slow setup once the HUD is up and most of the HUD fields are deleted. In Pokerstars you have to use classic table theme right now, that stopped me from PS use for first couple months and may have been FEZ's issue.
My TS Hud is set up to go run in conjunciton with HEM, and gives me a 1-65 player color coded player score over each player, as well as number of mtts played (TS has no filter for sample size, and will assign the highest ranking to a player with 20mtt history so u have to watch this).
pot_sniper said:
I use tournament indicator and it is very simple and basic to use. I like it, and feel that it does what its supposed to, however, I would like to use a program that keeps track of all hands played against a villian. Ive heard holdem manager was the way to go but I downloaded the free trial and it was just to hard for me to understand. Never even got the hud up and never even got to use it, i just gave up. Any advice guys?
I think TI under Stats then Stats Assistant then Query will let you see all the hands you've played vs a villain.
HEM has a real learning curve. I think it is worth it, but sometimes I just use TI's HUD.
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