Well it depends litterally there are 1000s of reasons. Depending on who your 3 betting and thinning the field and if your in or out of pos. Same as the 3 bet sizing question. Its impossible for me to answer because its different for different situations. There is no standard answer to questions like this. If there was poker would be a easier game.
I mean again i know this is vague but I probrably dont do that against all people. I generally 3 bet much smaller against people that I consider good. Because it accomplishes the same thing against them as a bigger 3 bet. I may go bigger against some people that are flatting more often just to discourage them. Bet sizing in different situations against different opponents really is a feel like for me and there is no standard answer. I think if your doing the same sizing against all people this is probrably a leak.
hey,i saw it alot in ur vids,for ex min 16 k7s,defend in big,i like to 3b there,is not like i have kjs,and im afraid to get 4b and then ill have to muck a hand that flops well a good % ,,,what u think is best?
Gosh that was pretty funny in a hand w KJo w 2nd nutFD vs BB 3way flat where You put him on nutsFD or hand like KQ on a raised flop w TP and You re telling his 1/2 potsize on the river looks like a value bet but You cant fold still You undersand You’re beat 🙂
I have one question related to this… if you sometimes 3bet smaller to decent regs when you both are quite deep (f.e x1,8 or x1,9)… aren´t you giving great odds to call to the best players? It sounds a little weird to me, I hope you can explain it. Congrats for your vids, I think I´m learning a lot, thanks.
It would be hard to lay down the second-nut flush in-game without demolishing our time-bank, but I think in the hand with KhJc starting at 11:20, it’s a clear fold on the river – left77777 almost never has a stone-cold bluff, and if he has a worse flush it can be Jack-high at best that he is making a bad blocking bet with; also I think he’s unlikely to have flopped this worse flush because most (?) players would raise the flop for protection in a three-way pot with a made medium flush, which means he pretty much has to have QJo or QTo with one Heart and have called pre-flop with it out of position, or possibly TT or 99 with a Heart and made a distracted cold-call of the flop raise. I would give him at most three (being generous) combinations of these hands, and we’re getting 3.03 to 1 on the river, so it’s a fold if we can find 10 combos containing the Ace of Hearts; there are seven suited combos besides three of AhQx (and he might even have AhJd, among others), so in my opinion we have to fold.
duggs
whats the reasoning for the 3bet sizing?
duggs
why is being ahead of their opening range a good reason to 3bet?
bigdogpckt5s
Well it depends litterally there are 1000s of reasons. Depending on who your 3 betting and thinning the field and if your in or out of pos. Same as the 3 bet sizing question. Its impossible for me to answer because its different for different situations. There is no standard answer to questions like this. If there was poker would be a easier game.
duggs
Ill rephrase then, why have you chosen to lower you standard 3bet size to less than 2x IP and around 2.2x OOP at relatively deep stacks?
duggs
sorry thats also not intended to sound as rude as it does rereading it.
bigdogpckt5s
I mean again i know this is vague but I probrably dont do that against all people. I generally 3 bet much smaller against people that I consider good. Because it accomplishes the same thing against them as a bigger 3 bet. I may go bigger against some people that are flatting more often just to discourage them. Bet sizing in different situations against different opponents really is a feel like for me and there is no standard answer. I think if your doing the same sizing against all people this is probrably a leak.
simbadlion
hey,i saw it alot in ur vids,for ex min 16 k7s,defend in big,i like to 3b there,is not like i have kjs,and im afraid to get 4b and then ill have to muck a hand that flops well a good % ,,,what u think is best?
ex6tence
Gosh that was pretty funny in a hand w KJo w 2nd nutFD vs BB 3way flat where You put him on nutsFD or hand like KQ on a raised flop w TP and You re telling his 1/2 potsize on the river looks like a value bet but You cant fold still You undersand You’re beat 🙂
DLostAlRiver
I have one question related to this… if you sometimes 3bet smaller to decent regs when you both are quite deep (f.e x1,8 or x1,9)… aren´t you giving great odds to call to the best players? It sounds a little weird to me, I hope you can explain it. Congrats for your vids, I think I´m learning a lot, thanks.
littlepuss
It would be hard to lay down the second-nut flush in-game without demolishing our time-bank, but I think in the hand with KhJc starting at 11:20, it’s a clear fold on the river – left77777 almost never has a stone-cold bluff, and if he has a worse flush it can be Jack-high at best that he is making a bad blocking bet with; also I think he’s unlikely to have flopped this worse flush because most (?) players would raise the flop for protection in a three-way pot with a made medium flush, which means he pretty much has to have QJo or QTo with one Heart and have called pre-flop with it out of position, or possibly TT or 99 with a Heart and made a distracted cold-call of the flop raise. I would give him at most three (being generous) combinations of these hands, and we’re getting 3.03 to 1 on the river, so it’s a fold if we can find 10 combos containing the Ace of Hearts; there are seven suited combos besides three of AhQx (and he might even have AhJd, among others), so in my opinion we have to fold.