TPE Theory: Getting Paid with Andrew Brokos (Part 1)

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TPE Theory: Getting Paid with Andrew Brokos (Part 1)
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16 Responses to “TPE Theory: Getting Paid with Andrew Brokos (Part 1)”

  1. loxxii

    This is one of those things that I learned a while back and never actually did in practice. I will not let that happen this time. Thank you Andrew. You presented it way more clearly than the way I saw it before.

    My only comment is the slide at 29 min where we are looking for the 3rd or 4th best hand where it actually matters what we do and we still have KK listed next to AA pre flop. I dont think it matters in that case. I guessed JJ/QQ there.

    I like the classroom followed by practice style. I am a math teacher and that’s what we do in the schools as well. Great work.

  2. Foucault

    Thanks, lox. I was never formally trained as a teacher, but I have worked in many schools and with many teachers, so if you see things in my videos that are commonplace in classrooms, it’s probably not a coincidence 😉

    I wouldn’t consider QQ/JJ to be wrong answers, but I do think it matters sometimes what you do in terms of stacking KK. As you get shallower it matters less, but I think a big argument against slowplaying AA is that you will usually stack KK if you fastplay preflop, but if you slowplay there are some postflop situations where you won’t get stacks in.

  3. loxxii

    Oh I see. I thought the preflop next to AA implied that we were only considering if it mattered preflop. You’re definitely not stacking KK postflop with AA if you slowplay and flop trips for example.

  6. GaryLQ

    Andrew’s videos are well constructed and presented in a very professional manner. They’re easily the highest quality theory videos on the site imo, I’m looking forward to the rest of the series.

  8. panicattck

    I have to echo Gary. Andrew’s videos rank amongst the best on the site. Great teaching, good examples, well executed, timely topics. Can’t wait to see more of Mr. Brokos. I feel he has presented concrete ways to improve the game of the novice or intermediate player.

  9. BadBeatFil

    Again… a really helpful video. Last Friday I turned Aces up with Queens, but with a possible spade draw. I already extracted value pre flop and on the flop (on the flop I had tptk). He check/called on the flop, so I put him on a Q. On the turn I bet and he minraised. But because there were two spades, I wanted to protect my hand, so I went all in and he folded. Note: it was the first hand of the tournament (live). I now realize I should have seen this vid earlier and a call would have been better to maximize the value. There were not so many cards to do harm to my hand. Thanx Andrew!

  11. Foucault

    Thanks for the comment, and sorry I’m so slow in responding – I don’t often check these older videos for comments. I think that excessive concern with hand protection, especially flush draws, is a common cause for not getting full value. That said, if I thought my Aces were good and my opponent had already shown this much interest in the pot (check-calling and then check-raising) I’d be eager to get the money in and would probably raise rather than call, so don’t feel too bad about that!

  12. Yagasmurf

    at ~29 minutes why not add in 8 9 on the A 10 7 board as a target and wouldn’t the second best hand for the last example be K Q spades

  14. folding_aces_pre_yo

    hey andrew, this is the 2ed time im now watching the 1st part to the series , i’m kinda get confused a little bit , for instance when we hold a hand like pocket aces , and there’s been a raise from lets say UTG (no reads), you’re saying how are value target should be KK…but obv we can’t just think that V has this 1 hand . We will have to put them on a range of hands pre, our value target therefore should be hands like 99+ AQs+

    obv thats the best case scenario for v to have pocket Kings , because the money is most likely going in pre a lot of the time, and if they decide to get tricky and flat the 3-bet we still have great equity against KK or any other hand that they’ve called with.

    so for instance if the flop came K 2 5r ,

    our value target now will be AK as many players may will flat the 3-bet (especially if stacks are on the deeper side) so what i’m trying to say is that although KK can be in their range , our value target has now changed ….once we get to the flop? There’s always has a hand like a set on the flop with kings but we arent going to play a big pot with a over pair anyhow.

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