Mike “goleafsgoeh” Leah Premier Series – Midstakes Live (Part 2)
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  1. QuadJokers

    Apologies, Keyboard screwed up & posted before I finished.. But as I was saying… You say that you shove Any Ace from any position under 10bb.. I dont see how shoving Ace rag from UTG positions is ever profitable? Please can you discuss more?

    Thanks

  2. goleafsgoeh

    An under 10BB shove is getting called by strong K’s, maybe even QJ, QT depending on position of shove and caller..So shoving an A with under 10bb’s you are often going to get called by worse; so you can def say your shoving it for value. If you pass on shoving A rag you may not find a better spot and end up blinding down too low.

  3. QuadJokers

    Thanks for your reply, I do still have many issues with this thought process..
    Just running the maths as an example with A6s 9.5bb UTG, giving opponents a calling range of 11.5% (which is very generous for low stakes) 55+, A9s+,AT+,KTs+,KQ. We are being called with this range 62% of the time & only winning 36% & a risk of busto 40% of the time….

    Total EV as a BB number is -5bb..

    A6s is a middle hand as far as the Aces go, so this could be worse with say A4 or A3..

    Would it not be better to blind down to 8 if UTG with a weak ace & then shove 70% of range when folded to in LP or find a better spot??
    Or would it be more profitable to be shoving suited connectors or Broadways in the same spot than Ace rag & with the broadways having more flips possible or 40/60’s rather than so many 70/30’s when called by most of the calling range here.

    I just find in general that at low stakes, people are not calling with QT & QJ enough, its more often pairs & AT+, KQ. Of which we are only good against one hand..

  4. QuadJokers

    Correction -1bb as opposed to -5bb..

    My TPE shove chart calculation was not reading something correctly.
    It’s still a -EV shove tho which was my main point.

  5. goleafsgoeh

    Well can’t really disagree with most of what you wrote; but a couple small things:
    A) doesn’t A rag play a little better vs calling ranges then A medium due to straight possibilities…
    B) I’m not a big fan of shoving a much wider range from LP because people call so much wider…
    I don’t play small/mid stakes very often so you are prob right that they don’t call off as light as high stakes…but then doesn’t that then make it more profitable to shove…?

  6. QuadJokers

    Hi Mike,

    Yes I was thinking last night that I should of corrected that point with regards to A rag vs A medium because of the point you raise..

    With all the points we raise I just think in general its a very fine line & may just come down to the level of buy in & maybe the structure – the time that blinds increase to the next level etc.

    Thanks for your feedback. Its really important as it is a spot I have found myself in very frequently in turbo’s.

  7. Talheimer

    I watched the video and I am afraid this calculation does not take card removal into account (i. e. if we have an Ace, there are only 3 Aces in the deck left, so it is less likely that Villains hold Ax hands). This means the chance that we will be called is much smaller than 62% in this particular case. And this maked the shove profitable.

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