3k GTD Member HH Review with Marc Alioto (Part 2)
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Concepts In This Video: 3-Betting • C-Betting • Early Stages • Final Table Bubble • hand History • HUD • Late Stages • Member Spotlight • mid stakes • Post-flop • pre-flop
Kingsfull
Marc I must say I LOVE your brutal honesty. One of the many reasons I like your videos. If you ever reviewed a hand history of mine you honesty would be much appreciated. That being said I have a $4000K GTD R/A win you could review if you want 😛
marc alioto
I always feel like a big dick when i review someone’s Hand History. I found that when a coach was very blunt with me, i learned the most. I also concluded when my coach told me that a play was horrible, i would remember the exact spot in game which resulted in less mistakes. I just hope i dont come off like an ego maniac when in reality I have plenty to learn just like most TPE members. appreciate your comments and ill keep you in mind next time i do another Member review
Now go stack a fish
Azn
ColdZer0
Loved the video, sometimes though you just say that you love the way a hand was played, that you like leading that flop/river, etc but you don’t really explain why.. I guess the guy you’re coaching knows what you mean cause it’s probably a spot you talked about with him but I’d personally prefer if you could explain why these things are the best option as for example in the T7o hand at 39:15
marc alioto
Bless your soul. I LOVE THE FEEDback and wish more members would do this so i could improve as a coach/instructor. For this spot specifically, i like the lead to protect our equity with our exact holding. We are so vulnerable to nearly every turn card and opponents can call with worse which makes this lead sexy. I also think it is important to balance our leading range here with some top pairs when in general (at least what i see) people will be leading draws and middling type hands. Appreciate the feedback
GL my man
Azn
MrPunty
The AQ hand at the 11 minute mark is an interesting spot. 8 handed, UTG+1 shoves for 8BB and you’re next with 100BB. Behind you the stacks are 33BB, 9BB, 15BB, 31BB and 38BB. What to do? I think I lean towards a call – here’s my thoughts.
Obviously nobody is ever folding a better hand. So I think the question is whether you can do something that will induce someone to put money in the pot with a worse hand. I think calling is the only way to do that – AJ or ATs won’t call if you raise or shove but might pile if you call. You’ll get shown AK sometimes but hero was prepared for that anyway when he clicked it here.
Calling may also induce calls from the 30+BB stacks with medium pairs – not high enough to reship but not low enough to make a disciplined fold. They won’t do that if you raise/call. This does mean some of the time people who would have folded to a raise or shove will end up hitting a set and doubling up vs you but a lot more often they’ll just x/f the flop and you’ve won an extra 8BB.
marc alioto
ive had nightmares about this exact spot. I dont think worse hands shove like a10s and aj when we flat often enough to make call/call profitable. I do think we are flipping a lot of the time but when we do call I actually feel our perceived range is super strong. That gives anyone who shoves 30+bbs a stronger range IMO. Again, nightmares so im still in the tank.
Dont think i didnt see that height comment!
Gl my dude
rcavhs
Hey Marc, I’m trying to go through all of your videos since I really like your honest feedback for players.
I’m not sure if you still respond to comments here, but I found your feedback the T7 hand really interesting. I think leading the flop is good for the reasons you mention in the comment above (to deny a free card essentially). Then hero checks the turn on a pretty insignificant card, allowing a free river. Finally, by leading the river, we’re taking away villains ability to bluff (which you say you love). I just feel like this thinking is really inconsistent. This is how I’m seeing it:
Flop: Bet to protect our hand.
Turn: Check to let them bluff.
River: Bet big for value.
I guess mainly what bothers me is the river. Shouldn’t a better plan be lead flop, check-call turn and most rivers? I guess I’m not sure what hand calls the river lead.
rcavhs
To clarify, you didn’t say you love taking away the villains ability to bluff, but that the lead was “lovely.” I agree that if we had a busted draw, or maybe if the flush came in, then I could see a lead being something interesting to integrate into our strategy. But in fact we have a really strong hand and, in my opinion, villain’s actions indicate that he does not.