13 Responses to “$2K Live Tournament Hand History Review with Andrew Brokos (Part 2)”

  1. MrPunty

    Fantastic job with this series so far (and I’m sure it’ll continue that way).

    On the hand (starting at 12:50) where you opened A8s in the HJ and called a BTN 3-bet from Charder, do you think in retrospect that there may have been the potential to induce a light hero call with a bluffcatching hand? If your range for flatting pre and check-calling the flop includes any connected and/or suited hands that brick out on the turn and river – which I imagine it does as you won’t x/r all of those – this means that at the river some of your range will consist of hands that will likely lose unless you bet, and his Ax or Kx might look good against that range. And since I don’t think he can raise you here, you have nothing to lose, right?

  2. Foucault

    Thanks for the kind words, Punty. I do conclude in my video analysis that betting the river would be better than checking, and you’re right that getting called by Ax represents some of that value. I don’t know that he can’t raise, but I don’t know that I fold to a raise either.

  3. Julius187

    In the 96ss hand (18min), what are your thoughts on making a larger flop bet? This looks like a spot where we have a significant range advantage here as we have a lot more nutted hands than Hastings will, since we probably get 3bet by TT/QQ/KK, some KQ and some AJ.

    As a side note, I enjoy these live review videos. How do you go about recording the hands while you’re playing?

  4. spfeifer22

    In the 99 hand, I really liked your hand-reading and decision. 100+bb deep, I almost always set-mine here. So you’re winning a pot I usually lose. Is it a mistake to set mine?

  5. Foucault

    Having a range advantage is a reason to bet smaller. It means that it’s hard for him to call even when he’s getting good odds, especially with the threat of future betting as well.

  6. Foucault

    I mean, it’s better than folding. But as I argue in the video, I think raising is best. So yes, I’d say set mining is a mistake because it is less profitable than raising.

  7. bothorsen

    Hi Andrew. Thank you for yet another great video. My favourite part of this one is the indepth analysis of the hand at the end. This goes to a depth of thought process that I have been searching for in videos for quite a long time. But even with the long discussion about it, I still have a couple of questions 🙂

    You don’t discuss if you can discard some of villains range because of the click raise he does. Do you think he would do this with his entire range, or is this a polarizing move, or would he shove with the top 2-5% hands?

    I took a very big mental note on the part where you realize that it’s actually -EV to bluff raise the pure junk hands. I’ve heard the idea before, that it’s better to 3B with junk than with useful hands because you won’t be put in a tough spot when short stack reraises. Others say you should 3B bluff with the hands that are just below your calling range, which makes sense if villain have a calling range. 28o is no fun OOP against a guy that calls the 3B.

    Thanks,

    Bo Thorsen.

  8. JD

    If you’re in the BTN’s spot you probably don’t want to 4b jam with the top 2-5% and 4b small with the rest of your 4b range. The reason is because you are weakening your 4b small range too much. Against a good player you probably want to balance your ranges. It is possible have a balanced 4b jam range with a balanced 4b small range (which you would have to further divide into 4b/fold and 4b/call ranges), but it’s really really really really hard. To give you an idea you may 4b jam with 55-88, A2s, A3s, 3 combos of AA and 3 of KK, then put the rest into your 4b small range. I know that’s probably not properly balance, but like I said it’s really hard to do that. My point is that most good players when playing against other good players don’t have a separate 4b small and 4b jam range.

    Personally if I’m the button I see % of my remaining stack in the pot and I have a jam, call, and folding range.

  9. Foucault

    I agree with JD. I also think it’s very dangerous to assume that a player who makes a tiny raise instead of shoving must have a nutted hand and then to play exploitably as a result of that. Plenty of people will try to level you with this trick, plenty more will just small raise their whole range, etc.

    As for 3betting, there’s no reason to 3-bet 72o if you’re folding A5s (for example). In other words, the advice about 3betting the top of your folding range is generally correct. What you want to avoid is 3-bet-folding hands that are good enough to call, which almost any hand is if you are in the BB facing a min-raise from late position.

    Here’s how I think about it: we know folding is 0 EV, so raising only has to be slightly +EV to make it the better play. But when calling is +EV, then raising has to be EVEN MORE +EV to make that the correct play.

  10. redvulture61

    You get awful lot of Rungood in these MTTs.. AAs vs KKs yes its a standard cooler but still a bad beat nonetheless. But i guess on the grand scheme of things you need some rungood to win a MTT.

  11. bothorsen

    I didn’t actually assume that he has the top of his range. I asked whether there was some part of his range that you would think is less likely with this kind of move. After seeing him play the rest of the hand passively, I would assume that this guy doesn’t make this move with nutted hands in the future. It’s possible he did this with AK, but there’s a good chance he had much worse.

  12. jamo

    Great series, great video and great analysis in Cardrunners EV! My only concern is that in reality you actually have no idea what his range for doing the various things you suggest (flat vs 3b, 4b, 4b/fold, 4b/call etc) is. In my opinion, you’re making a best guess, which has the potential to be way off! Also, you choose to guess the % of the time you get to realise your equity given you’re out of position – where does this number come from? We can always guess his BTN opening range, but different players have different ranges in this spot, and then as for how he would play the different parts of that range vs a 3b I think is almost impossible to say for sure. At what point do you say, “my best guess is good enough” vs “i just don’t know if this is profitable given the amount of imperfect information we have available”?

  13. Comicrican

    Yeah, you lost me at the end w/ the CREV, that’s my leak, the math. I’m just don’t go that in depth about it but know it’s something I must improve on. Will keep digging on the site for videos to do just that.

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